Pretty. Odd. Review

Release Date: Mar 25, 2008
Label: Fueled By Ramen
Genres: Emo, Punk Revival, Punk-Pop
Number Of Tracks: 15
Panic At The Disco returns with a new sound, but the band itself hasn’t changed at all.

Sound:	7.8
Lyrics:	7.7
Impression:	8.1
Overall rating:	7.9
Users rating:	5.3
Comments:	138

overall: 8

Featured review by: UG Team, on april 09, 2008

Sound: Panic At The Disco -- you either love them or hate them. Two years ago, the band released “A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out.” The album swept the nation topping the charts. The band basically became even with most pop acts for radio and video play. The band re-entered the studio in 2007 to begin writing a new album. This album has a different overall tone than “A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out.” The band’s direction in music seems to have taken a turn towards the better. The album itself reminds one of the Beatles, the Beach Boys, and David Bowie, to name a couple of influences you can see. The album opens with “We’re So Starving” where the band claims that they’re “the same band”, and “you don’t have to worry.” The song itself gives a good introduction to the album and what the listener is going to be hearing. The song works into the first single, “Nine In The Afternoon”, which is a pop-rock song with clever fast moving vocals with a piano and a guitar to accompany them. The song also features horns during the chorus. The song itself is a perfect single and a great official opener to the album (not including the intro track, “We’re So Starving”). After an outro of various string instruments, a blues-like guitar sound kicks in as “She’s A Handsome Woman” begins. The song has vocals that vocalist Brandon Urie can boast about. You can tell that he has she'd his whiny vocals as seen in “A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out”. “Do You Know What I’m Seeing” is a track that features string instruments, harmonica, piano, and drum set. The track itself is a very solid track featuring the entire vocal range of Urie. The next track, “That Green Gentleman” is a bright song that seems to cheer up anyone’s day. I can imagine the band playing this song on a parade float and having the music itself (represented by color and the people are all black and white) cheer people up. “I Have Friends In Holy Spaces” features a ukulele, clarinet, and trumpet accompanying the vocals of Urie. The song itself sounds like it would be playing from a record player from the sound quality. The next song “Northern Downpour” is a ballad featuring the harmonious combination of the vocals of Urie and guitarist/lyricist Ryan Ross. The track is a dramatic difference compared to all the other songs so far. It is definitely a song that most people could relate to and like pretty easily. It also reminds you of Beatles’ songs such as “Strawberry Fields Forever”. The song fades into “When The Day Met The Night”, which starts out with a psychedelic guitar riff. The song slowly builds up to the chorus which seems to be the lightest part out of this darker track. The song flows on to “Pas De Cheval”, a moving piece that sounds sort of like western-rock. You can envision the band riding horses in an old western movie. It isn’t the greatest song on the album, but it’s a nice transition piece. “The Piano Knows Something I Don’t Know” sounds like a Beatles song in the earlier parts of the track featuring a variety of string instruments. The strings suddenly build into an upbeat sound that could fit into a suite with “Nine In The Afternoon”. The song continues on eventually to transition to “Behind The Sea”. This song is definitely one of the stronger songs, featuring vocals from Ross instead of vocalist Urie. Urie does accompany doing almost silent harmony vocals in the background. Ross definitely does a good job on this song as vocalist. It is also one of the few songs that don’t have horns and strings joining the band for the whole song. “Folkin’ Around” is just as the title perceives it to be -- a folk song. It is a worthy attempt at folk, but it sounds too similar to the Beatles’ “I’ve Just Seen A Face”. That set aside, it is a pretty good song, just not so creative. “She Had The World” is a pretty good duet between Urie and Ross. It just sounds too similar to the album’s influences to take seriously. “From A Mountain In The Middle Of The Cabins” is an uppity sounding song with horns throughout the whole song. The song doesn’t really help do the album justice, but it does lead into the closer “Mad As Rabbits”. The closing track starts with horns and then brings in the the band itself along with Urie. The song also features Ross, who again is a great addition to the track. The song itself is single worthy at all levels. It is probably one of the few songs on the album that reminds me of “A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out”. It is a great closer to the album though. The album itself sounds great. You just have to put aside the fact that almost every song lacks music creativity. // 7

Lyrics and Singing: Ryan Ross is a great lyricist. His lyrics are both simple and clever. Some of these lyrics can be seen in “Do You Know What I am Seeing?”: “Clouds are marching along, singing a song, just like they do./If the clouds were singing a song, I'd sing along, wouldn't you too? /If you just knew what they could do./Oh, if you just knew, what would they do? ” Another example of these lyrics can be seen in “Behind The Sea”: The men all played along/To marching drums/And boy did they have fun/Behind the sea/They sang (hey! )/So our matching legs/Are marching clocks/And we're all too small/To talk to God/Yes, we're all too smart/To talk to God.” // 9

Impression: While this album could be labeled as a great album, it just seems like a Beatles cover album with no Beatles songs. The band just seemed to sit around listen to Beatles’ records as they wrote this. There is nothing wrong with listening to the Beatles, but it just seems like the band is running out of creativity on their current four year trek in the music industry. I do believe that this record will push the band forward and gain more fans. At this cost though, they might lose fans of their synth heavy dance-pop-rock fans. This album can be appreciated by most people, once you set aside that they took a lot of Beatles’ ideas and changed them to their own context. Isn’t the music industry basically that though? Taking your inspirations and messing around with their sound? While this album does lack some creativity, the band did do a great job at making a record that is a completely different step away from “A Fever You Can’t Sweat Out.” // 8

overall: 9

Reviewed by: NineInAfternoon, on april 09, 2008

Sound: The band announced the title of the new album, Pretty. Odd. (which comes from a line from the song "That Green Gentleman": "Things are shaping up to be pretty odd/ Little deaths in musical beds"). They were inspired by the beatles and their way of music. They decided to use an orchestra instead of computer sound effects (like they used in their old album "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out". They recorded the album in Palms Casino Resort in Las Vegas, Nevada and at Abbey Road Studios in London, England. // 9

Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics had a great vibe to it and went great with the music. Nothing was off and it seemed like the music and lyrics were meant for each other. Brendon Urie's (lead singer) singing made the songs even better. In this album everybody song and did it very well. // 8

Impression: This album was more then I expected. Its songs relate to many of the beatles songs and its sound was suprisingly good. Some of the most impressive songs was "That Green Gentlemen" and "She Had The World". the whole album was great but those were the two songs that stood out to me the most. The thing I love the most was that Panic at the Disco totally changed their sound. one word, impressive. // 10

overall: 8.7

Reviewed by: paquiquinho, on april 09, 2008

Sound: The unique sound of Panic at the disco presented in "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out" is completly lost in "Pretty. Odd.". It sounds like a diffrent band! Is that bad? Well that's on you to decide. Personaly I like their new style. More mature and well defined it brings back memories of such bands as The beatles or The beach boys while still being unique and innovative. They give that old unused music style a make over that sounds good. It is very hard for me to rate this because it will be only up to you and you will be in one of two groups of people: The ones who see it as a whole and grow to really enjoy it and the ones who find it offensive and aren't even giving it a second listen (wrongly). Being in the first group and having listend to the album many times I'll rate it a 9. // 9

Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are diffrent. If I had to give a color to "A fever you can't sweat out" when it comes to lyrics I would say black while to "Pretty. Odd." I would give a light shade of blue. Well this mind sound like a stupid comparision to you but I can tell you if you listen to it you will understand what I'm saying. Don't get me wrong though! The lyrics are still great and have that edge to them but intead of being what made most consider PATD "emo" they are more happy and romantic. Still sometimes senseless and cruel wich is awesome. Brian Urie is a awesome singer and writter. Let's boil ot down to this: If the lyrics are fun to sing along they are good. I can't stop singing so I can say I really enjoy the lyrics! // 9

Impression: Panic at the disco really took a leap of faith with this one and it's only up to you to decide if you like it or not. The songs are really catchy and the lyrics fun to sinf along so I would say the album is pretty good but also I think the title is kind of right. I recomend you to listen some songs of the album if you want to give it a try: Pas De Cheval, That Green Gentlman (Things Have Changed), She Had The World. Those three are great I think. If You decide to get the album listen to it more than once. At first it will sound bad but it will grow into you until you can't help but dancing and singing! If I lost this one I would really buy it again! As for the rating it is a 10 for me but I'll give it an 8 because I understand it is not for everyone and may be seen as a backstab to the fans of the band. // 8

overall: 7.7

Reviewed by: DontFightTheFoo, on april 09, 2008

Sound: This is definately not a Panic CD. Not only did they lose their exclamation point, they also lost they Panic-ness. This album does not have a hint of techno or dance, something I was really looking foward to. I think Panic was trying to experiment with different music genres but tried to hard. They tried Jazz/Blues and even country! However, one of things they did nail is their Beatle-esque style. Lots of Sgt. Pepper vibes have been added to their songs due to the trumpets and string orchestra. All in all, Panic did an ok job with their album music-wise. Their singles, "Nine in the afternoon," and "That green gentleman" are, what I think, the best songs on the album. // 7

Lyrics and Singing: Lyrics? They're somewhat alright. One of the things I dislike though, Is the lyrics of the first song, "We're so starving." The music is awesome, but the lyrics state that they're sorry that they've been gone so long and that they have been busy writing songs for us... literally. They also say that "We don't have to worry because they are still the same band." No. You are soo not the same band. Brendon Urie still has his same, high, sometimes whiny voice. Not much change. I don't really have a lot to say about it. // 8

Impression: Panics attempt to use new styles of music wasn't so sucsessful. in addition to losing their ever-so popular exclamation point, their funky, up-beat, dance music, I think they also lost some fans. Their wasn't so much I loved about it, and I only hated the fact that they aren't the same Panic anymore. If I lost the album, I would probably just go ahead and buy a different album. Pretty. Odd. wasn't exciting enough for me. // 8

overall: 7

Reviewed by: unregistered, on april 10, 2008

Sound: Going against the common opinion, I feel that this album contains some definitively innovative ideas and musical sounds. Noting their progression since 'A Fever You Can't Sweat Out' is something that would emphasize their development and maturity that led to them dropping their. And in terms of the development of the musics size and idea of dynamics is something that is drawn upon throughout the album; the progression from the grandeur of songs such as "The piano knows something I don't" and "Pas De Cheval" which contain an array of instruments, including brass instruments and piano, which replace the heavy synths that featured more upon 'A Fever You Can't Sweat Out'. Their development has led them away from their synth roots, and has progressed into a more experimental sound that has been compared to the beatles, the beach boys etc. Their experimental nature is also expressed through the use of Ryan Ross (guitarist) not only in conjunction with Brendon Urie (Vocalist) but also having complete songs with Ross' vocals. Having his quite raw voice provides a pleasant counterpoint to Brendons more 'pop' vocal stylings. // 8

Lyrics and Singing: I must say that people express their awe at Ryan Ross' lyrics, with their apparent quips and humorist nature. However, the lyrics seem overly abstract, almost to the point of ridiculous on certain tracks. The lyrics were the sole aspect of the album where I was disappointed, as the blatant criticisms of 'A Fever You Can't Sweat Out' have disappeared and instead been replaced with quirky lyrics of singing clouds and such alike. However, certain songs did invoke a slight smile, even if it was not Ross' intention ("It's the greatest thing that's yet to have happened/Imagine knowing me" Pas De Cheval) it's seeming arrogance seemed too much for my feeble mouth to contain. // 5

Impression: Overall, the sound has progressed since 'A Fever You Can't Sweat Out' and the album is miles away from where many Panic fans expected, but an open mind can lead to an appreciation of some of the finer, catchyer songs on the album. The lyrics leave extensive room for various interpretations, and are often repetitive in their sometimes too abstract nature. Some fans will probably be disappointed, but with their progression away from their roots, Panic seem set to attract new fans as well. If it were lost, I would buy another copy, although it would not be as heavily used as other CDs, however, more so than 'A Fever You Can't Sweat Out'. // 8

overall: 3.3

Reviewed by: raoulruby, on may 10, 2008

Sound: Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not someone who hates "mainstream music" as it's called today, and whilst loads of little scene kids scream out in pain when there favorite band get all big and popular, I think that it's good for bands, and fans alike, what's not good is when a band builds it's self a comfortable sized fan base and releases a sophomore album, which I persons can only describe is the single worst follow-up album ever. I was a huge fan of there previous release "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out" however for some bizarre reason they have decided to ditch there up-tempo synth filled sound and rip off effectively climb on board the NME bandwagon, a wagon filled of artists making terrible music, however because it's so different and 'original' it must be great, WAIT, this album might as well be a Beatles album, I mean every aspect of it stinks of the Beatles, again whilst not calling myself a 'fan' of the Beatles, they were a hugely inspirational and great band - of there time, well now there time has gone, mainly as most of them have died. Pretty Odd has acoustic guitars, kazoos, grand piano and an assortment of other 'weirder' instruments, and whilst musically the approach and outcome musically is one which is impressive, it's just not something that should of been released so early in the career, or even at all, really it's just a boring record, there are no songs you really want to get involved with, you can't move about or connect with any of it. // 4

Lyrics and Singing: Brendan's (lead vocals, piano) vocal skills are not in question with my listening to this album, nor are Ryans (lead guitar, other instruments that made this record so crap) infact there vocal range seem to of improved, but when the opening lyric on there first track of the album is "We're so sorry we've been gone, we were busy writing songs, for you" you can't help but think, what the bloody hell is this? Lyrically the first record wasn't that great, but this record, Pretty. Odd. takes us to an all new low, throughout the album it seems they have just tried to piss people off by writing lyrics which make absolutely no sense at all, and they are supposedly a band who do not drink, do not do drugs, so how the hell did they come up with some of this! // 3

Impression: If I really had to recommend a song from the album I would say "Behind the Sea", whilst it's lyrically just as annoying as every other song on the album, there is a certain charm to it, similar to the lead single "Nine in The Afternoon", it is still not an album worth buying in my critical opinion, but at the end of the day Panic! could of brought out anything as the sophomore album and hundreds of thousands of teenage fangirls would still go out and buy and love it. The album does deserve a listen at least, just to appreciate just how a band can release such a brilliant debut and follow it up with such rubbish. // 3

overall: 6.7

Reviewed by: unregistered, on april 21, 2008

Sound: The sound on "Pretty. Odd." is good, but it's not in the style of previous PATD songs. Until about the sixth track, the songs sound like a smooth transition from "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out." After this, though, the band seems to have been experimenting with different sub-genres too much for this album to have the same musical consistency. // 6

Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics are uniquely odd, which fits well with Panic At The Disco's lyrics on "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out." It fits fairly well with the music, which attests to Brendon Urie's vocal abilities. Brendon Urie sticks with his excellent vocal range, hitting several high notes to compliment the music. // 8

Impression: It seems that after track six, they were trying to sound a bit too much like The Beatles. It sounds "good," but not for Panic At The Disco. I would have preferred if they'd stayed on the same genre path as "A Fever You Can't Sweat Out." I felt that the pinnacles of "Pretty. Odd." were "Nine In The Afternoon" and "That Green Gentleman (Things Have Changed)." I am a fan of Panic At The Disco, so I am a bit biased in recommending fans of rock music to purchase this album. // 6

overall: 8.3

Reviewed by: ThrillerIOH, on april 09, 2008

Sound: Panic changed their sound a lot for this CD. If you listen to the CD you will see what I mean. But it might be a good thing. They certainly did the unpredictable with making a Beatles-like album. I respect them for that. But I do think that they have to be a little bit more of themselves. I think they used the Beatles as too much of an inspiration. It sounds too much like the Beatles. But saying all of this, I am not saying it's a bad album. In fact, I think it is really good. Any fan that can accept a little bit of change will like most songs on this album if not the whole thing. // 8

Lyrics and Singing: I think that the lyrics of this album were very good but a bit inconsistant. No one please bash the lyrics on 'We're So Starving' because it is a joke. But there are some amazing lyrics on this album and some not-so-amazing lyrics. The lyrics on 'Northern Downpour' blew me away but the lyrics in 'Mad As Rabbits' didn't necessarily do so. Nine In The Afternoon's didn't blow me away either. // 8

Impression: Overall, I think that this is a really good album. It kind-of sounds like a modern day Beatles but with a little Panic twist. My favorite songs on the album so far are 'She's A Handsome Woman,' 'Pas De Cheval,' and 'That Green Gentleman.' These songs blew me away musically and lyrically. I love tha this album offers a little bit of everything. I don't like how it's too closely related to te Beatles. I think we need a mix of the two styles, (albums) next. // 9

overall: 8.7

Reviewed by: hannah.hearts92, on april 09, 2008

Sound: The sound on this album pretty much varies from song to song, going from 1920s style on "I have friends in holy places" to folk on the aptly named "folking around", to something that sounds like it's stepped out of the 1500s with "she had the world." Each song uses different styles, and often will have different influences from different eras. "Nine in the Afternoon" Is obviously based on the beatles, judging from the music video, also the use of brass. Also with this album, there is little notice taken of normal chord structure, except perhaps acoustic slow song "Northern Downpour" Overall, this album has an incredibly varied sound, it contrasts greatly with a fever you can't sweat, and each song is different. // 9

Lyrics and Singing: Lyrically, the name of the album is fitting. Pretty odd. It is. Personally, I think there is an underlying influence of Lewis Carolls "Alice in Wonderland". Possibly. The lyrics, individually, tell a story, but the whole album doesn't. The two songs that Brendon Urie wrote, are more commercial lyrically, written about love and things like that, but with a sound that isn't commercial. Ryan Ross, however, uses words, phrases, and themes not often used. Also written about a varied amount of subjects, these aren't really the kind of lyrics you can easily relate to, unless you understand a deeper meaning, and often there isn't one, but somehow, it fits, and it works. // 7

Impression: Personally, this is one of the best albums I've heard in a while. I prefer it much more to a fever you can't sweat out, and is much better than a lot of albums I've bought recently. Songs that stand out for me are Pas de Cheval and Mad as Rabbits, but I like all of them really. The one that stands out least is The Piano Knows Something I Don't Know. What I love about the album is that it has dared to break the rules, and although a lot of panic fan won't like it, a lot will, and I feel they will gain more fans. I don't hate anything, it's all good really. I recommend it to anyone getting bored of modern music and losing faith in progress. // 10

overall: 9.3

Reviewed by: frank_iero_fan1, on april 09, 2008

Sound: Panic At The Disco has always been a unique band, but this album really sets them apart far from the rest. The sound is, as the name implies, "Pretty. Odd". This CD doesn't have the synthesizers and stuff like they're debut, A Fever You Can't Sweat Out, has. A lot of the songs remind me of The Beatles. There's a country/bluegrass song on here that is surprisingly good. // 9

Lyrics and Singing: The lyrics on this CD are amazing. I, being a lyric writer for my band, have fallen in love with them. Ryan Ross wrote most of the songs' lyrics, however Brendon Urie wrote two: "I Have Friends in Holy Places" and "Folkin' Around". They're all very good. It sounds like Ryan Ross sings in some of the songs like "Northern Downpour" and "Behind the Sea". I was really impressed with the lyrics on this album. // 10

Impression: I've had this CD for one day, and it is probably my favorite. The best songs from the album would definitely be "Northern Downpour", "That Green Gentleman", or "Do You Know What I'm Seeing". The thing that I love about this CD is that it's so different, and you don't know what's coming next. I really don't hate anything about it. If I lost it, I would definitely buy it again. // 9

overall: 10

Reviewed by: unregistered, on april 09, 2008

Sound: Panic At The Disco have changed a lot since their debut album, 2005's 'A Fever You Can't Sweat Out'. Dropping The exclamation point, and more importantly their dance and electronic influences, They've opted for a more classic rock influences, borrowing from the likes of the Beatles with potentially disastrous results. Fortunately, though the whole album sounds like a completely new band, It remains familiar enough to please old fans, while allowing more conservative people to enjoy it. It's still the same Panic. // 10

Lyrics and Singing: Lyricist Ryan Ross maintains the brilliance of 'A fever you can't sweat out', Though as well as the music, his lyrics have change a fair bit. While 'A fever you can't sweat out' used lyrical themes such as Adultery, Prostitution and Religion, 'Pretty. Odd.'s lyrics are not so confronting. The lyrics fit the music well, but are sometimes overshadowed by numerous dubs, such as strings, horns etc. Though Brendon Urie is a great singer, some of the high points, vocal-wise, are when guitarist Ryan Ross is singing. In 'Mad as Rabbits' Ryan and Brendon's voices suit each other perfectly, and create a sound that can only be described as amazing. // 10

Impression: Though the first track, 'We're so starving', states "You don't have to worry 'cause we're still the same band", This is not completely true. While Panic is Panic, and They are still instantly recognisable to fans of 'A fever you can't sweat out', The songs are no longer dance orientated and more traditional, with strings, horns and mandolins appearing often. I would list the impressive songs from this album, but a track list would be easier. There isn't really anything I dislike about Pretty. Odd., save for the fact that, as a guitarist, it is a little disappointing to hear Ryan's brilliant and sometimes quite complex guitar work overpowered amongst the strings etc. Though I have downloaded the album, it is only temporary until I can afford to buy it. If I were to lose the album, I'd buy another without question. // 10

Comments

[CFlydn9]

Meh, I saw the "Nine in the Afternoon" video, and couldn't help but think "That sounds and looks an awful lot like the Beatles.
Not saying it's a good thing, or bad. Just Meh.

[Auals]

This album surprised me, for what it is, it's a good album. And I like their... subtleties. The fact that instead of just saying "We're all too smart to talk to God" they have small repeated by the backing vocalist confusing what's being said. I liked it.

It's different to A Fever which I liked as well.

[lazlow325i]

hated "a fever." love "pretty. odd."

[belavista man]

I never liked Panic!... Their first album made me cringe so badly, but I heard their new single and it's aweful (though it's better than anything off their first album). I'll stick to the stuff I like, thanmks very much.

[thenephilim]

yes, great lyrics... definitely worthy of a 9..... WTF!?

[rx_eb]

Pretty Odd. Pretty Queer. Pretty Gay

[stradivari310]

I thought it was fantastic.

Whoabot wrote:

More like "Pretty. Gay." AMIRITE LOL

Seriously, don't you have better insults than that? Keep it to yourself.

[guitarist41]

As much as I would like to, I'm not going to give it a 1 just to drag down it's user rating, since I have not actually heard the album. This band made my life a misery back in 2006. lol

I like that the top review compares it to David Bowie and The Beach Boys, they're both great[NOTE: The Beatles are the most overrated band of all time]. Maybe this album will actually be alright.

[guitarist41]

Also, people. Don't refuse to listen to this album simply because their last album sucked(IMO).

More good music = More good music!

[ontherun]

Ryan Ross is a great lyricist. His lyrics are both simple and clever. Some of these lyrics can be seen in “Do You Know What I am Seeing?”: “Clouds are marching along, singing a song, just like they do./If the clouds were singing a song, I'd sing along, wouldn't you too? /If you just knew what they could do./Oh, if you just knew, what would they do? ” Another example of these lyrics can be seen in “Behind The Sea”: The men all played along/To marching drums/And boy did they have fun/Behind the sea/They sang (hey! )/So our matching legs/Are marching clocks/And we're all too small/To talk to God/Yes, we're all too smart/To talk to God.”

I can't see how either of those examples make this guy a great lyricist... Perhaps if he was in 4th grade remedial English he'd be at the top of his class, but I assume he's not so... it seems my dog's most recent turds have more substantial lyrics than this guy has ever dreamed of...

[duncang]

Bet none of the people whining on these comments have actually listened to the whole album

[SchitzoJoe]

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.

[ss311]

There are a lot of nasty comments here; sure, Panic at the Disco may not be to your tastes (the band certainly doesn't match mine), but that does entitle us to flame the musicians who comprise Panic at the Disco. The UG review was well done.

[omarrodrigez]

SchitzoJoe wrote:

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.

They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.

[bonus card]

this album is just so boring! it completely rips off the beatles to an extent that its just unbelievable and the band appears to have lost the passion that once appeared to be in the music.
the album doesnt progress or develop rather it plods along clutching at the classic sounds they can only hope of emulating.

the lyrics still make no to little sense in the majority of places but now they arent covered by that infectious dance/synth sound that made the music interesting.

my two cents....

[its_sublime07]

first of all, i'm with fifi. why is this on a guitar website if the guitar and/or bass is pretty bad, and extremely repetitive.

Secondly, their new album and video SCREAM sgt. peppers at me. which sucks because sgt. peppers is a GOOD album. It's like they're trying to take the beatles to the next level, but are in reality regressing. If you want to hear some pop music reminiscent of the beatles, but actually good and not just a ripoff, listen to Of Montreal. Other than that, Panic is the new F.O.B.

[shyalicia]

I love this album! I've listened through the whole thing at least 10 times. Each song takes you to a different setting and makes you feel good. I feel Panic did their absolute best on this.

[wawawewa]

panic sucks balls

[duncang]

omarrodrigez wrote:

SchitzoJoe wrote:

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.
They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.

Lmao, you're so coooool for listening to bands like that. Woaaaah.

Also, Panic At The Disco have NEVER been an emo band. They've ALWAYS been an experimental pop band.

[M.O.P]

The new album album I like more than the old one (which I don't like much). And they don't really fit in with the genres UG Team said they are. They are more alternative rock now.

[lilscooter11]

bonus card wrote:
this album is just so boring! it completely rips off the beatles to an extent that its just unbelievable and the band appears to have lost the passion that once appeared to be in the music.

Spot on. It was bad enough when I first heard Nine in the Afternoon, and thought it sounded like a poor Beatles clone, but then I saw the video and it just said to me that they were trying too much to emulate The Beatles. At least their old stuff was catchy and had a direction to it, I wouldn't skip it on my ipod if it did come on, however I'm 2+ years older now and probably wouldn't listen to them ever again.

Cheeky Rip-off Merchants...

[omarrodrigez]

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

SchitzoJoe wrote:

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.
They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.

Lmao, you're so coooool for listening to bands like that. Woaaaah.

I was just claiming those bands make panic look like nothing more than a couple of 14 year olds who cannot play their instruments, not that I'm cool because I listen to them.

[duncang]

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

SchitzoJoe wrote:

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.
They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.

Lmao, you're so coooool for listening to bands like that. Woaaaah.
I was just claiming those bands make panic look like nothing more than a couple of 14 year olds who cannot play their instruments, not that I'm cool because I listen to them.

But it's so ridiculous to compare a band like Meshuggah to a band like Panic that the only reason you would name drop like that would be to make yourself look cool.

[redhotsexmagic]

i liked the first album a lot..kind of more so when i saw them play live at lolla in '06 and they were probably the most entertaining band there. I like this album too..its almost like every song is from a different genre and it keeps it interesting to listen to

[omarrodrigez]

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

SchitzoJoe wrote:

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.
They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.

Lmao, you're so coooool for listening to bands like that. Woaaaah.
I was just claiming those bands make panic look like nothing more than a couple of 14 year olds who cannot play their instruments, not that I'm cool because I listen to them.

But it's so ridiculous to compare a band like Meshuggah to a band like Panic that the only reason you would name drop like that would be to make yourself look cool.

My point was when there are bands like Meshuggah out there, they make them look like total shit. Stop being so immature and hostile, you're just looking for an argument.

[duncang]

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

SchitzoJoe wrote:

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.
They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.

Lmao, you're so coooool for listening to bands like that. Woaaaah.
I was just claiming those bands make panic look like nothing more than a couple of 14 year olds who cannot play their instruments, not that I'm cool because I listen to them.

But it's so ridiculous to compare a band like Meshuggah to a band like Panic that the only reason you would name drop like that would be to make yourself look cool.
My point was when there are bands like Meshuggah out there, they make them look like total shit. Stop being so immature and hostile, you're just looking for an argument.

Well I could say that Hawthorne Heights make them look like total shit. It's completely irrelevant.

[I'mAtSchool]

Blatant Sgt. Pepper's rip off IMHO.

[Alexishxc1337]

omarrodrigez wrote:
They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.

They aren't even in the same genre, so you can't compare.

[duncang]

omarrodrigez
I'm just sick of people treating them like real music.

And you called ME immature!?

Also, it's not ignorant (the newest buzzword around here, may I add) to think that Meshuggah are bullshit. I see where they're coming from to. If you don't immediately like it from your gut then you do just see it as pointless chugging and that's totally understandable, really.

[omarrodrigez]

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez
I'm just sick of people treating them like real music.

And you called ME immature!?

Also, it's not ignorant (the newest buzzword around here, may I add) to think that Meshuggah are bullshit. I see where they're coming from to. If you don't immediately like it from your gut then you do just see it as pointless chugging and that's totally understandable, really.

haha man, you crack me up. Obviously someone with a poor understanding of music wouldn't like Meshuggah, therefore he's being ignorant. And yes, you are and continue to be immature.

[duncang]

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez
I'm just sick of people treating them like real music.

And you called ME immature!?

Also, it's not ignorant (the newest buzzword around here, may I add) to think that Meshuggah are bullshit. I see where they're coming from to. If you don't immediately like it from your gut then you do just see it as pointless chugging and that's totally understandable, really.
haha man, you crack me up. Obviously someone with a poor understanding of music wouldn't like Meshuggah, therefore he's being ignorant. And yes, you are and continue to be immature.

Uuuh...

I don't even know how to respond to this. I have a friend, who doesn't know anything about music. He doesn't know what a time signature is, what a key is, anything. He still loves Meshuggah. Your argument is just completely and utterly wrong. Someone with no understanding of music whatsoever can love Meshuggah just as much as someone with the highest qualifications available can hate them.

Trust me on this one, though, saying that ANY band is not 'real music' is just ridiculously immature.

[Dallen_007]

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez
I'm just sick of people treating them like real music.

And you called ME immature!?

Also, it's not ignorant (the newest buzzword around here, may I add) to think that Meshuggah are bullshit. I see where they're coming from to. If you don't immediately like it from your gut then you do just see it as pointless chugging and that's totally understandable, really.
haha man, you crack me up. Obviously someone with a poor understanding of music wouldn't like Meshuggah, therefore he's being ignorant. And yes, you are and continue to be immature.

Just because he doesn't like a band you do doesn't make him "musically ignorant." He doesn't have to like Meshuggah, and why even compare them to Panic? There is no comparison, they are completely different. Stop dissing Panic as well, they are good at what they do, making nice pop rock. It's nothing amazing, but it's not bad either. Good album too, even if they put a little too much Beatles.

[fridge_raider]

First off, how can you say he is immature, if you don't know how old he is ?

Secondly, I thought you were the one with a slightly ignorant attitude, as is everyone who dismisses Panic! as 'not being real music' simply because they themselves don't enjoy it.

[duncang]

For the record, I don't particularly like Panic At The Disco and I love Meshuggah.

[omarrodrigez]

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez
I'm just sick of people treating them like real music.

And you called ME immature!?

Also, it's not ignorant (the newest buzzword around here, may I add) to think that Meshuggah are bullshit. I see where they're coming from to. If you don't immediately like it from your gut then you do just see it as pointless chugging and that's totally understandable, really.
haha man, you crack me up. Obviously someone with a poor understanding of music wouldn't like Meshuggah, therefore he's being ignorant. And yes, you are and continue to be immature.

Uuuh...

I don't even know how to respond to this. I have a friend, who doesn't know anything about music. He doesn't know what a time signature is, what a key is, anything. He still loves Meshuggah. Your argument is just completely and utterly wrong. Someone with no understanding of music whatsoever can love Meshuggah just as much as someone with the highest qualifications available can hate them.

Trust me on this one, though, saying that ANY band is not 'real music' is just ridiculously immature.

haha whatever man, think what you like. And about the Meshuggah thing, I meant some people that have no knowledge in theory can't appreciate them on the same level of those of us who do. And so someone who isn't a huge fan of metal wouldn't like them if they didn't understand the underlying genius. Tons of people love them without knowing that genius and that's cool too.

[jon3782001]

A very poor album, trying too hard to do a ''SGT Pepper'' as opposed to originality. It's certainly refreshing but the vocals are just awful. If they had a raw englishness to them it would be great!

[Henkdemachtige]

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez
I'm just sick of people treating them like real music.

And you called ME immature!?

Also, it's not ignorant (the newest buzzword around here, may I add) to think that Meshuggah are bullshit. I see where they're coming from to. If you don't immediately like it from your gut then you do just see it as pointless chugging and that's totally understandable, really.

haha man, you crack me up. Obviously someone with a poor understanding of music wouldn't like Meshuggah, therefore he's being ignorant. And yes, you are and continue to be immature.

Ok what if is say you´re a lose because Jimmy hendrix is better...

You are not making a point comparing 2 different bands to each other. If you hate PATD for having lack of creativity and stuff, thats fine, but don´t say they suck because *insert band name* walks the world, thats just dumb.

Also, (this part is not written to omarrodrigez) Punk = easy 3 chord music, so if you say that its lack of creativity its not, it COULD be punk.

[duncang]

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez
I'm just sick of people treating them like real music.

And you called ME immature!?

Also, it's not ignorant (the newest buzzword around here, may I add) to think that Meshuggah are bullshit. I see where they're coming from to. If you don't immediately like it from your gut then you do just see it as pointless chugging and that's totally understandable, really.
haha man, you crack me up. Obviously someone with a poor understanding of music wouldn't like Meshuggah, therefore he's being ignorant. And yes, you are and continue to be immature.

Uuuh...

I don't even know how to respond to this. I have a friend, who doesn't know anything about music. He doesn't know what a time signature is, what a key is, anything. He still loves Meshuggah. Your argument is just completely and utterly wrong. Someone with no understanding of music whatsoever can love Meshuggah just as much as someone with the highest qualifications available can hate them.

Trust me on this one, though, saying that ANY band is not 'real music' is just ridiculously immature.
haha whatever man, think what you like. And about the Meshuggah thing, I meant some people that have no knowledge in theory can't appreciate them on the same level of those of us who do. And so someone who isn't a huge fan of metal wouldn't like them if they didn't understand the underlying genius. Tons of people love them without knowing that genius and that's cool too.

I don't listen to Meshuggah for the 'genius', or the complexity or whatever. I listen to them because they're the most ridiculously headbangable band on Earth, and I get the same effect listening to them as I do listening to Slayer, an incredibly simple band as far as music theory goes.

Get off your high horse, man.

[Henkdemachtige]

Henkdemachtige wrote:

Ok what if is say you´re a lose because Jimmy hendrix is better.

Lose = Loser

[Henkdemachtige]

Yes, and if you dont like it, why do you waste time reading their reviews and posting here?

[red157]

Henkdemachtige wrote:

Yes, and if you dont like it, why do you waste time reading their reviews and posting here?

Because this isn't their fan site, it's a review section. If more people could be arsed to write constructive reviews, their overall rating would be almost as low as their user rating.

[ghostofhendrix]

SchitzoJoe wrote:

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.

its not that the music itself is bad, people just don't like their mainstream, conformative image, especially when there r truly talented bands out there with much less recognition purely because they stick to their morals and refuse to sell out.

[shooshi123]

Henkdemachtige wrote:

Yes, and if you dont like it, why do you waste time reading their reviews and posting here?

Too true...

All you haters should really get lives, i mean what is the point of reading a review for a band you blatantly don't like?
Yes, you people have opinions and i think we're all clear of them.
Personally i think its a great album, its really bold and its clear to see that they have progressed as musicians and as people shown in sound and lyrically.

[omarrodrigez]

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

duncang wrote:

omarrodrigez
I'm just sick of people treating them like real music.

And you called ME immature!?

Also, it's not ignorant (the newest buzzword around here, may I add) to think that Meshuggah are bullshit. I see where they're coming from to. If you don't immediately like it from your gut then you do just see it as pointless chugging and that's totally understandable, really.
haha man, you crack me up. Obviously someone with a poor understanding of music wouldn't like Meshuggah, therefore he's being ignorant. And yes, you are and continue to be immature.

Uuuh...

I don't even know how to respond to this. I have a friend, who doesn't know anything about music. He doesn't know what a time signature is, what a key is, anything. He still loves Meshuggah. Your argument is just completely and utterly wrong. Someone with no understanding of music whatsoever can love Meshuggah just as much as someone with the highest qualifications available can hate them.

Trust me on this one, though, saying that ANY band is not 'real music' is just ridiculously immature.
haha whatever man, think what you like. And about the Meshuggah thing, I meant some people that have no knowledge in theory can't appreciate them on the same level of those of us who do. And so someone who isn't a huge fan of metal wouldn't like them if they didn't understand the underlying genius. Tons of people love them without knowing that genius and that's cool too.

I don't listen to Meshuggah for the 'genius', or the complexity or whatever. I listen to them because they're the most ridiculously headbangable band on Earth, and I get the same effect listening to them as I do listening to Slayer, an incredibly simple band as far as music theory goes.

Get off your high horse, man.

Then we obviously enjoy music on different levels. Yes Meshuggah is ridiculously headbangable and heavy, which is awesome. But they're also stimulating to me on an intellectual level, which is why I enjoy them so much.

[omarrodrigez]

Henkdemachtige wrote:

You are not making a point comparing 2 different bands to each other. If you hate PATD for having lack of creativity and stuff, thats fine, but don´t say they suck because *insert band name* walks the world, thats just dumb.

I was just saying when there are bands out there infinitely better, whether it's a poppy band or a metal band, it makes a band bad. Yes they lack creativity and decent playing skills, that's me main reason for disliking them. I was just saying other groups make them musically irrelevant. Sorry I didn't make my point clearer.

[paul_brownell]

i like panic at the disco and fallout boy

if you dont like them just dont listen, simple

[lesbian_men]

is it really right to criticise someone's taste in music, or should we not just express our own opinions on the matter? Why brand something as shit, when there are obviously going to be other people who appreciate the fact that a band created some music which appeals to them.

omarrodrigez Wrote :I meant some people that have no knowledge in theory can't appreciate them on the same level of those of us who do. And so someone who isn't a huge fan of metal wouldn't like them if they didn't understand the underlying genius. Tons of people love them without knowing that genius and that's cool too.

and im sorry, but if we cannot appreciate the genius behind meshuggah because we dont understand the underlying genius, then can you honestly claim to understand the motivation behind 'Panics' music, and then if not, wouldnt that mean that you cannot appreciate Panic on the same level as others too...and if so, then why bother criticising. some people would enjoy Panic and some wouldnt...theres no need to criticise other peoples taste in what appeals to them

[stumaster18]

I like this band, but I haven't heard any of the new stuff. I'll download it now

[pogostick]

hmm, all the reviews give it 8 or 9, but the users give it 4.7. methinks that there are some metal snobs on here rating an album they don't own just becuase they hate this genre of music. Jesus, grow up guys, don't rate it if you don't even have the album, just be a little more tolerant of people's taste. i like panic, as well as metallica, iron maiden, suicide machines, blood brothers, etc, just don't come here with your negitive ratings.

P.S i know i'm like the 100th person to say this, but still

[The Black Salts]

Well Pogo I'm definitely a diehard metal fan, and even though this isn't music I'd listen to on a day to day basis, I can admit that after seeing one of their recorded live performances they write interesting and fun music, and are good performers. There's a lot of ''fun house'' styled song writing and I like that.

[Junesongtrigger]

They should have labelled this album as metal/punk/hardcore just to piss everyone off.

[AVIDFANOFSOUNDS]

I hope this is the end of all the emo crap thats playing these days

[Junesongtrigger]

In all honesty though, you can't be serious comparing this band to Meshuggah. Honestly. Why would you even try? They do nothing alike, there is nothing relative between them and if you like one chances are you will hate the other. What's the deal man?

[Cheesepuff]

Lots of guys wrote:

panic suck

I bet you haven't listened to any of their songs, and if you had, then ok

[omarrodrigez]

Junesongtrigger wrote:

In all honesty though, you can't be serious comparing this band to Meshuggah. Honestly. Why would you even try? They do nothing alike, there is nothing relative between them and if you like one chances are you will hate the other. What's the deal man?

I wasn't comparing them, read one of my latter posts.

[SOADwannabe]

What's the point of giving an album a bad review just because you don't like the genre? Seriously, does it make you feel cool?

Get over yourselves pricks...

[tim western]

cool!? what is this 'cool' crap? it's about music, not 'cool'

[VintageZen]

If Panic is not "terrible," they're DEFINITELY not "Amazing".

I dont care what genre they are, and yes I have listened to most of the album, and all I know is that this band lacks any creativity, originality, or talent whatsoever. All they have is an image.

[1h81337]

i like meshuggah AND patd

oh shit!

[lazlow325i]

i love how everyone who's bashing panic haven't heard one song off this great CD.

[duncang]

tim western wrote:

****ing hell shut up - panic are homo's and that's it - i also agree with FiFi that it's bullshit they get reviewed on here.

and duncang etc. stop being pedantic little pop rocker fiends and shut up! people may not have heard their whole album because you simply dont need a whole album to realise that they're just a dirty pop band! if britney spears gets a review i fully expect you to come on here and stick up for here.

just remember this is a GUITAR website!

Is pedantic a new word you learnt today? Congratulations.

And just so you know, on behalf of UG team, I'd like to say we don't care what you think of Panic At The Disco, or what you think of our professional opinion on their new album.

[revolution1251]

Fact is panic! are crap i'm scared that each day we're losing more and more contact with reall music...

[EddieCraig]

how the hell does panic at the disco get an 8.7?

[diablomastabarb]

stradivari310 wrote:

I thought it was fantastic.

Whoabot wrote:

More like "Pretty. Gay." AMIRITE LOL
Seriously, don't you have better insults than that? Keep it to yourself.

I'm with you Whoabot.

Checked

[rush4life]

I'm not voting on a rating or anything, since I haven't heard the album but those quoted lyrics in the first review warrant nowhere near a 9 to me.

[karliswilde]

Why can't we all just get along :'(

[shooshi123]

karliswilde wrote:

Why can't we all just get along :'(

I agree

[FreeManson15]

I just listened to the album, I actually think it's pretty good even though a complete rip off of the beatles, but hey, thats cool. Their first album wasn't that bad, and at least panic is alot more creative with their music than most "emo" bands.

[Dillon_59]

GAY

[Guitar_Jester]

Indeed.

[hippyguitardude]

it's freakin opinion people stfu and have a nice civilized conversation.

[sweatersdotcom]

I guess I never should have bothered coming to this page looking for people who aren't bickering little babies.

I get it, you're all die-hard metal fans, and frequenting the Ultimate-Guitar forums gives you all kinds of musical street cred. And I'm sure you all listen to bands that are WAAAY more underground than the bands any of these other posers listen to, right?

Oh, and "this is a guitar website, YTF are PANICZ HERE!??!!" Because there's guitar in their songs, dumbass.

Grow up. And to the guy who namedropped Meshuggah, nobody cares. Get this: I've never HEARD of Meshuggah before, and I'm still not impressed that you listen to them. So good luck impressing the people out there who actually have heard of them.

And for the record, I think "Pretty. Odd." is decent... the decision to include Ryan Ross as a vocalist was a good one (not that any of you have heard the songs he sings on, you just watched the 'Nine in the Afternoon' video on YouTube and then came straight here to bitch), because Ross's voice is less over-stylized and fake sounding. However, I think Fever was a better album overall.

[stradivari310]

sweatersdotcom wrote:

I guess I never should have bothered coming to this page looking for people who aren't bickering little babies.

I get it, you're all die-hard metal fans, and frequenting the Ultimate-Guitar forums gives you all kinds of musical street cred. And I'm sure you all listen to bands that are WAAAY more underground than the bands any of these other posers listen to, right?

Oh, and "this is a guitar website, YTF are PANICZ HERE!??!!" Because there's guitar in their songs, dumbass.

Grow up. And to the guy who namedropped Meshuggah, nobody cares. Get this: I've never HEARD of Meshuggah before, and I'm still not impressed that you listen to them. So good luck impressing the people out there who actually have heard of them.

And for the record, I think "Pretty. Odd." is decent... the decision to include Ryan Ross as a vocalist was a good one (not that any of you have heard the songs he sings on, you just watched the 'Nine in the Afternoon' video on YouTube and then came straight here to bitch), because Ross's voice is less over-stylized and fake sounding. However, I think Fever was a better album overall.

Ah, thank God for intelligent people.

And nice review UG team. I couldn't have said it all better myself. I think the CD is good for what it is: pop. And it's good pop. Obviously PATD are not The Beatles, but really some of the songs on Pretty. Odd. are good in their own right.

[Hergiswi]

Dillon_59 wrote:

GAY

+1

[(NAME WITHHELD)]

you know you suck when UG writes a review about how odd your songs are. this is no exception =)

[Infamou$17]

It's alright, I like how they tried to mix it up a bit and try new things but sometimes they come off as trying way too hard to sound like The Beatles and The Format. There are a few great tracks on here though, but not enough. Completely lacks the energy of the last album, it's just not as fun to listen to for the most part. 7/10 effort, but if I want to hear experimental pop this isn't gonna be what I go to in my CD player, I'm gonna turn on Dog Problems or Satanic Panic in the Attic/The Gay Parade.

[eltravo]

The entire thing is just an insult to the Beatles.

besides that, theres no feeling behind the cd, it just ounds lik ethey didnt mean any of it. the MUSIC is good (voalas are annoying)but its just not THEIR music, it was written already, many times.

The whole thing really just pissed me off, and the fact that droves of pop fans will listen to this and sing it's praises for how "orgional" theyre being for sounding "old"

god I hate things.

[the1]

omarrodrigez you don't seem to have heard of opinion. Some people like Meshugga, some don't. Is has nothing to to with musical understanding whatsoever.
Nine In The Afternoon is okay, but I couldn't listen to a whole albums worth of stuff like that.
As for the lyrics, they just don't seem to make any sense.
sweaterdotcom Thankyou!!!

[MonstaMan]

omarrodrigez wrote:

Junesongtrigger wrote:

In all honesty though, you can't be serious comparing this band to Meshuggah. Honestly. Why would you even try? They do nothing alike, there is nothing relative between them and if you like one chances are you will hate the other. What's the deal man?
I wasn't comparing them, read one of my latter posts.

on your latter post you said 'They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.'

yes this is comparing them, dumbass

i think u shud just leave now before u make even more of a fool of urself...

[Comeback Kiddd]

MonstaMan wrote:

omarrodrigez wrote:

Junesongtrigger wrote:

In all honesty though, you can't be serious comparing this band to Meshuggah. Honestly. Why would you even try? They do nothing alike, there is nothing relative between them and if you like one chances are you will hate the other. What's the deal man?
I wasn't comparing them, read one of my latter posts.


on your latter post you said 'They are that bad when compared to greats like Meshuggah or King Crimson.'

yes this is comparing them, dumbass

i think u shud just leave now before u make even more of a fool of urself...

Too late. He already did by replying on how many posts?

[Necropolis]

ghostofhendrix wrote:

SchitzoJoe wrote:

Probably so, duncang.

People shouldn't be allowed to post in reviews unless they've actually listened to and can judge an entire album truthfully.

Honestly, I don't understand what's up with the whole "hate" thing against Panic! and Fall Out Boy. They're honestly not that bad of bands. They're not anything to write home about, but they're really not that bad.
its not that the music itself is bad, people just don't like their mainstream, conformative image, especially when there r truly talented bands out there with much less recognition purely because they stick to their morals and refuse to sell out.

i second that. even though i'm still not a FOB or PATD. though i must say i think i'll put PADT ahead of FOB anyday.