Metallica To Bloggers: Don't Review Our Music

According to ArsTechnica.com, given all that Metallica has done, said, and been through in the last 20 years, what could they still do that would lead bloggers to ask, "What the hell is wrong with Metallica?" In this case, the answer is fairly pedestrian but still dumb: censor bloggers.

Related StoriesMetallica may be starring in the next Guitar Hero title A brave new world: the music biz at the dawn of 2008 Indie labels "revolting" against eMusic's low prices? Indie music, meet telco behemoth: eMusic partners with AT&T Here's the scenario: internationally known heavy metal band with long history in the business invites music critics in London to listen to six tracks off the band's forthcoming album. Those critics then write reviews based on what they've heard. Despite the total lack of any non-disclosure agreements and the fact that the band must have known what it was doing, its management then contacted the blogs in question and asked them to take down the reviews.

Actually, "asked" may be a polite way of putting it. The music blog Blinded by the Hype contacted The Quietus, one of the blogs that had run a review, wondering what had happened to the piece. The answer, from editor Luke Turner, was clear. "The Quietus kept our article up the longest and, as no nondisclosure agreement had been signed," he wrote, "[we were] not prepared to remove it merely due to the demands of Metallica's management. We only removed the article earlier today to protect the professional interests of the writer concerned."

Metallica's management and PR team knew who the (anonymous) writer of the piece was, as they invited him; if they chose to do so, they could probably make his livelihood more difficult to earn in the future. The Quietus decided to pull the review and replace it with a cheeky note and an old interview with the band. Wired's Listening Post blog, which has followed the story, notes that this isn't just about being jerks; management claims that the tracks in question were a rough mix that weren't ready for prime time, which perfectly explains why they invited journalists to come hear them.

Read more at ArsTechnica.com.

Comments

[MadMojo]

classic Metallica.

[smb]

Old and wrong. The whole thing was a misunderstanding and Metallica have asked websites to put reviews back up.

[Kelicon]

am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?

[Hamham272]

Thanks for bringing us up to dat news. It's A MISUNDERSTNANDING.

[Hamham272]

wish i could spell..

[GibsonVdude]

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?

no im pretty sure i was too...

[not_dead_enough]

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...

Me too, horrible journalism.

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

[highwind5150]

you know that shouldn't be the headline...making metallica out to look like bad guys...again. Making it sound like a quote from the band...screw that nonsense...I'll just keep watching my Fly on the Wall videos until the album comes out.

[RU Experienced?]

We can't download your music illegally, we can't review your music, we can't stand to listen to your music. At what point does enough become enough Metallica?!

[Lord_Doku]

lol douchebags, its old news and an MISUNDERSTANDING. i think this was from either during St.Anger or napster. i dont know when it was :S

but i do know that it was

[BlisteringDDj]

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...
Me too, horrible journalism.

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

I didn't get it either. Lol

[Mercyful Fate]

they put the links to the reviews on thier website.....so..this is completly wrong

[fede01_8]

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...
Me too, horrible journalism.

me too

[CoreysMonster]

that was a terrible article. Wouldn't surprise me if all that really happened was that metallica commented on the blog, and the poster removed in shame.

[loxer]

This article is a complete mess.

[Friar Tuck]

I'm glad I'm not the only one who found this article totally incoherent

[Tallman1984]

Someone take this damn article down for god sake. This is getting ridiculous.

[wlcm2themachine]

In the words of Dewey Cox:

What the **** did he just say?

[CowboyUp]

The second paragraph is nearly unreadable.

[Paul DB]

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what.

Thats pretty subjective. Take St. Anger, that pretty much (if not totally) sucked.

[Matt_1213]

My eyes glazed over before the end of the first sentence. Did this journo even finish school?

[TGautier13]

Paul DB wrote:

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what.

Thats pretty subjective. Take St. Anger, that pretty much (if not totally) sucked.

That's your opinion.

And yes, this article is a disgrace to the English language. It just makes you guys look more amateur then you already have been looking lately.

[break-me-in]

This article is horribly written. I'm pretty sure I'm better qualified than this journalist. UG (or whoever you pilfered this article off), can I have a job?

[empiggy]

I didn't understand...well, any of this. I think it started to make sense, and then you went off talking about something else...which might have related about the beginning thing.
But then I had no ****ing clue.

[This1GoesTo11]

This can only mean one thing: They know the fans are going to hate it!

[Jackolas]

Friar Tuck wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who found this article totally incoherent

It's like a toddler has tried to take intelligent words from a list and has pointed at them in a random order to form the sentences...

[lukeuh36azabc]

this is utterly ridiculous

[ahmos]

god... still a bunch of bitter losers after all this time and all the respect they've already lost...

[Korzack]

That is fairly retarded at first glance - 'How dare people not like us!'...Gods, grow up fellas!

[Shaharz]

Ah? Oo

[not_dead_enough]

Paul DB wrote:

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what.


Thats pretty subjective. Take St. Anger, that pretty much (if not totally) sucked.

Your comment is more subjective than mine. How is saying "true fans of a band like most of their work" any more subjective than "X album sucked"??

I for one loved St Anger, as much as I love Ride The Lightning and all the others. Not every "Metallica fan" hates St Anger, y'know...

[Chinfrim]

I wish I could understand what it's being said in that Article..

[prateak]

what's wrong with reviewing? may be they have really gone mad... mad at the world might not have been just a phrase

[wicked_hobbit]

Kelicon wrote:

am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?

Haha I was thinking about posting the same comment. Horrible writing.

[wicked_hobbit]

Mercyful Fate wrote:

they put the links to the reviews on thier website.....so..this is completly wrong

100% agreed. End of story.

[cmac989]

It's funny how several people have refuted this article's truth and still people are thinking it's true and calling Metallica *******s. Try reading the posts first. This is shameful UG slander, which is becoming more and more common.

[Jondy]

I'd like to hit the writer of this article with my big freakin grammar stick.

[MonsterOfRock]

Well, plenty of idiots here are already. Its called don't freakin' listen to something you don't like. Get a real life. Its bad enough as it is with this revolting journalism.

Meanwhile, the Fly on the Wall footages are keepin' me warm for the metalliwinter. I still believe there is god

[EatsP1es]

HORRIBLY written.

[Whit_f-ing_ROX]

MadMojo wrote:

classic Metallica.

+1

[3 days grace14]

Metallica I love you but ****you guys honestly dont get your ****in panties in a knor

[3 days grace14]

KNOT

[Ataxia]

Who the hell posted this? It's terribly written..

[death_rider]

Kelicon wrote:

am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?

Yeah that first paragraph made NO sense

[acidhammerdrums]

UG should hire editors.

[Black Revolver]

yeah i didnt get this article very well.

[J.Priest]

Huh? John Titor doesn't understand this

[CrazyPigeon]

To be honest, I understood very little of this. Somebody fancy rewriting it?

[Kurdt2k]

Seriously...that was a terrible article, almost incoherent

[eoiniscool]

ok first off yes it was written awfully but please...
CAN WE STOP TALKING ABOUT HOW AWESOME METALLICA WERE 20 YEARS AGO AND GETTING THE WHOLE WORLD'S OPINION ON THEIR LAST 3 ALBUMS???
EVERY SINGLE TIME!!!

[riteso]

this is wrong. check out metallica's website. the quietus are dicks anyway

[Red33]

Jackolas wrote:

Friar Tuck wrote:

I'm glad I'm not the only one who found this article totally incoherent


It's like a toddler has tried to take intelligent words from a list and has pointed at them in a random order to form the sentences...

Haha,
It makes no senseeee

[therescue06]

CowboyUp wrote:

The second paragraph is nearly unreadable.

i thought i was too baked to understand that...guess not.

[bigbunny]

Old news, this was on my ISP homepage several days ago. Not kidding.

[Powerhouse]

Damn, that article was very poorly written. I had to reread it several times, thinking I was missing something.

[reelbigfish2020]

this doesn't read well, at all. the writer, or at least someone should have re-read this thing before posting it up. but uhh, metallica, lol, i just cant seem to stop picturing them as drama queens.

[rhcpfan118]

Lord_Doku wrote:

lol douchebags, its old news and an MISUNDERSTANDING. i think this was from either during St.Anger or napster. i dont know when it was :S

from what i heard on G4's attack of the show, they invited fans to a private listening party of the new tracks, there no were contracts or agreements so fans went home and blogged about the tracks, metallica didn't like it... so they told them to take them down, but since they didn't have a contractual agreement, it's a pointless request. they bitched that it wasn't fair to judge the songs because they weren't fully mastered tracks, but then... why would they let fans preview unfinished tracks?
but i do know that it was

[rhcpfan118]

bah, i messed up the quoting :p here's my statement.

from what i heard on G4's attack of the show, they invited fans to a private listening party of the new tracks, there no were contracts or agreements so fans went home and blogged about the tracks, metallica didn't like it... so they told them to take them down, but since they didn't have a contractual agreement, it's a pointless request. they bitched that it wasn't fair to judge the songs because they weren't fully mastered tracks, but then... why would they let fans preview unfinished tracks?

[westerand]

fede01_8 wrote:

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...
Me too, horrible journalism.




me too

Yeaa.. I didn't understand most of this either..
But what I got I didn't like.. I am so tired of reading things that make Metallica (or any other for that matter) look like *******s... Can't we all just get along??

[rhcpfan118]

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...
Me too, horrible journalism.

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

album wise i can understand liking a majority of albums, but as far as songs go, a TRUE fan doesn't like every single song an artist puts out... that's what poseurs do.

[killboypowerhed]

its like the journalist took a crap on his keyboard and typed while on a heavy acid trip. it made no sense at all!

[Mr.Garreth]

Why is it that Metallica are the only band that Ultimate-Guitar post bad news about? Damn I wonder if Ultimate-Guitar hate Metallica??

[whitestrat279]

Ok, I'm going to blog now .

[xcaboose]

uh.... Que?... im so lost

[westerand]

*or any other (band) for that matter

[thbeekk]

that has to be one of the worst written articles I've seen in the last few weeks

[hardrocker64]

No. I read it twice and still dont knoww what the hell they said.

Kelicon wrote:

am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?

[hardrocker64]

Maybe I will get baked and read it again

therescue06 wrote:

CowboyUp wrote:

The second paragraph is nearly unreadable.


i thought i was too baked to understand that...guess not.

[metaljroc]

yeah, I'm pretty ****in lost also. Wait...no...yep I'm confused.

[holden93]

My inner grammar Nazi is about to go on a journalist holocaust not only for his lack of ability to properly order details and the use of totally unrelated subject matter, but for the fact that this article is just one more time someone tries to crack off an article by making Metallica out as bad guys. . .

[budgetminded]

Not only is the writing almost incoherent, but the information isn't current, and at this point totally wrong.
http://www.metallica.com/index.asp?item=600942
Meta llica says some manager asked the reviews to be pulled while the band was on tour. When Metallica got back and heard this, they didn't like that the reviews were pulled, so now the reviews are back. There is even a link to the reviews on thier website.

[LedFloyd77]

what in the f**k did they just say??? jesus christ its like talking to my dog

[pdq13]

To the U.G. staff:Marijuanna is quite a bit more potent than it use to be.You don't have to smoke all the joint at one sitting anymore!Especially before you put a story together!

[kevinyapsir]

Try clicking on the link to the arstechnica article, and you will understand how this article is just a horribly done cut and paste job. (They accidentally copied the sidebar into the 2nd paragraph, which is why it reads like crap)

[GuitarSymphony]

morons :\

[riteso]

Try clicking on the link to the arstechnica article, and you will understand how this article is just a horribly done cut and paste job. (They accidentally copied the sidebar into the 2nd paragraph, which is why it reads like crap)

Haha youre right. What a bunch of amateur losers. Cant even do a cut and paste job right. And the story's incorrect in places too. This is old news furthermore. Typical unprofessional UG *******s. Ban me, i dont care

[RATicuZZ]

havent read all the comments and im probably repeating whats been said but:

what is paragraph 2 about?

[bushey37]

so in other words they invited people to review b/c they thought it would get good reviews. but then it got bad reviews and they don't want people to see it. screw metallica. and their fanboys.

[IRONMAIDENTLICA]

wlcm2themachine wrote:

In the words of Dewey Cox:

What the **** did he just say?

I watched that yesterday, and i second what he says, WHAT THE SHIT IS GOING ON THIS ARTICLE?!

[becker009]

in the words of the simpsons' comic book guy,

"worst article EVAR"

[King Herman III]

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...
Me too, horrible journalism.

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

I agree and disagree with that statement. I agree to support a band through everything. But I disagree in the fact that only liking the first 4 alumbs doesn't make you a "true" fan. During the 90's and up until now, pending on the new album, Metallica's albums haven't been that good. They lost their element of heavy. It's more radio friendly. I hope they go back to their old, balls to the wall, thrash days, but that's just me.

[Dirtydeeds468]

The second paragraph is basically unreadable.

Fire the guy that wrote it.

[palmster2006]

sry but metallica are a bunch of b*tches
they write good music but come on

[dooncan]

UG get this sorted NOW.

[ValenceElectron]

Kelicon wrote:

am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?

+1
don't worry, you're not alone.

[NoQuarter1]

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...[/quote]

Jondy wrote:

I'd like to hit the writer of this article with my big freakin grammar stick.

+100000 wtf was this article about...

[i_am_metalhead]

King Herman III wrote:

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...
Me too, horrible journalism.

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

I agree and disagree with that statement. I agree to support a band through everything. But I disagree in the fact that only liking the first 4 alumbs doesn't make you a "true" fan. During the 90's and up until now, pending on the new album, Metallica's albums haven't been that good. They lost their element of heavy. It's more radio friendly. I hope they go back to their old, balls to the wall, thrash days, but that's just me.

Forgive them for trying to stay with the times. Their change in style is what kept them alive through the 90's. They realized that metal, for the most part, had died at the turn of the decade and they needed a drastic change or they wouldn't be able to increase their fan base. The music through the 90's and up until now is actually very good but since its not "Good ol' 'Tallica" all of you 80's fanboys are too narrow minded to give it a real chance.

And yes, if you only like a fraction of the albums that are produced by a band then you aren't a true fan. TRUE fans will stick with a band through thick and thin and will purchase and listen to albums simply because they are fans of the band, not because they think the music is good or bad.

Personally I'm glad that metal is making a huge comeback and Metallica has gotten back into their metal roots. I can't wait for this new album!

[Langerz1991]

A article about metallica...without the word "nutty"??
it must be a bloody miricle! lol

[Vinnie9]

[quote]not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...

Me too, horrible journalism.
quote]

Where was the punctuation?!

[sockboy]

Related StoriesMetallica may be starring in the next Guitar Hero title A brave new world: the music biz at the dawn of 2008 Indie labels "revolting" against eMusic's low prices? Indie music, meet telco behemoth: eMusic partners with AT&T Here's the scenario:

Ummmm yep....

[Langerz1991]

i_am_metalhead wrote:

Forgive them for trying to stay with the times. Their change in style is what kept them alive through the 90's. They realized that metal, for the most part, had died at the turn of the decade and they needed a drastic change or they wouldn't be able to increase their fan base. The music through the 90's and up until now is actually very good but since its not "Good ol' 'Tallica" all of you 80's fanboys are too narrow minded to give it a real chance.

And yes, if you only like a fraction of the albums that are produced by a band then you aren't a true fan. TRUE fans will stick with a band through thick and thin and will purchase and listen to albums simply because they are fans of the band, not because they think the music is good or bad.

Personally I'm glad that metal is making a huge comeback and Metallica has gotten back into their metal roots. I can't wait for this new album!

+1

[TempoTantrum]

Metallica will one day make a video game about blogging

[beefofjesusbass]

i actually don't care about a critics review of music whether it be a good or bad review cos its their opinion and i probably don't have the same opinion as them so im gonna ignore all the reviews and make my own opinion of the album when i buy it

[megathrash00]

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...
Me too, horrible journalism.

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

Another metallica fanboy that would get on his knees and suck hetfield...I and by the way the first four were the only good albums...we're not required to love everything the band puts out if we consider ourselves fans...if they release shit I'm gunna be honest and aknowledge it as shit and not buy it...get over yourself its a ****ing band not your family or friends you don't know them personally and they dont deserve the unconditional love you and other faggot fanboy give them...they ****ed up, they sold out, they sold shitty albums its their fault not ours

[megatallica666]

oh ug you make me feel so good in my tummy. cant read this shit and im sure its bullshit.

[korn_dawg]

smb wrote:

Old and wrong. The whole thing was a misunderstanding and Metallica have asked websites to put reviews back up.

This is a paradox. if it was a misunderstanding, metallica never asked reviews to be taken down. if metallica asked review sites to put reviews back up, then they clearly asked them to be taken down (and someone was dumb enough to listen)

[Thefallofman]

This is the most poorly written article I've ever read in my life. How did this shit make it on here?

[axeslinger01]

metallica- one of the best metal artists of all time in the 80's

i think that "master of puppets" is one of the greatest albums ever recorded

that said, everything the made after and justice wasnt thrash metal. and it sucked in my opinion because metallica was a thrash metal band. **** you gay fanyboys.

[riteso]

smb wrote:

Old and wrong. The whole thing was a misunderstanding and Metallica have asked websites to put reviews back up.

This is a paradox. if it was a misunderstanding, metallica never asked reviews to be taken down. if metallica asked review sites to put reviews back up, then they clearly asked them to be taken down (and someone was dumb enough to listen)

It was the metallica management that told sites to take them down, not metallica themselves

[NorfIrIon]

First the John 5 review....
I think the "engrish" trend is starting to take over everything.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

I love this band(with the exception of reload and st. anger) but I hate how they have to do incredibly dumb shit such as this. Anyone else remember the whole napster thing? Like they could really do anything to stop illegal downloaders. Hopefully the new album sounds more like their first four. Master of Puppets and ...And Justice for All are two of my favorite albums of all time.

[smb]

korn_dawg wrote:

This is a paradox. if it was a misunderstanding, metallica never asked reviews to be taken down. if metallica asked review sites to put reviews back up, then they clearly asked them to be taken down (and someone was dumb enough to listen)

It's not a paradox. Metallica's press management asked the reviews to be taken down, and Metallica asked for them to be put back up. Their management making those requests was based on a misunderstanding. Understand now? Or do I need to make it simpler for you?

[DaBoXBabY]

I'm gonna join the completely lost crew on this one.

[mister bass guy]

WTF did i just read...?

[shut_up_n00b]

Wrong information and horrible writing. Nice article though.

[rockee]

UltimateGuitar **** up yet again with a Metallica article. Way too quick off the mark and made look stupid.

[areese82]

All I understood is that Metallica is bitchin' about something again.

[ElectricPie]

Confused..I am

[Henkdemachtige]

i was kinda lost, who wrote this?

[samdevon]

Bloggers to Metallica: **** off.

[Grisly_Darkness]

I think I'm dumber now that I read that.

[darkfire_storm]

not_dead_enough wrote:
And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

I would think a TRUE fan of any band would be willing to admit that not everything a band puts out is completely amazing. In fact, I'm a huge Korn fan, and I'll be the first to admit that they definitely should have taken a different direction with their last album. Just like many Metallica fans should be willing to admit St. Anger was no good.

As for the article, I do hope this isn't true. It makes them look like such... vaginas. They should get over themselves. If their last few albums were good enough to keep them relevant, then I think they might be able to justify this sort of behavior, but I personally haven't been able to stomach anything since Load was released.

[killeranndy]

Huh?!?!?! I'm confuse, what happen?

[ilovethinlizzy]

Doesn't matter if its true or not

Metallica are still a bunch of w*nkers with eqally shit recent releases

[dieloony2]

This is bad writing, should be taken down =/ i can barely make the story out

[moodster]

lmfao@sidebar getting copy-pasted into the article

[kennyvspenny]

MadMojo wrote:

classic Metallica.

lol. i love these guys, but wtf are they thinking half the time? they are like the biggest band in the world. **** what everyone else thinks!

[JOE_DESTROYER]

who the hell wrote this... this is a ****ing piece of shit... take this shit down and write it again

[drumbum4life]

Kelicon wrote:

am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?

i was too... lol i dont even know what the ****s going on xD

[Lost_Rose]

Typical Metallica. Time for them to put their old tired feet up and stop annoying the hell out of everyone.

[benjy118]

This artical must be originaly Spanish or somehting, it's horrably Translated. It seems they Journalists just put random words together. It makes no sence.

[scottmcandrew]

This is horribly wrong as Metallica have posted links to the reviews on their own website

[espplayer400]

first off, this is a horrible article. i dont even understand it, and was lost for most of it. and personaly, i dont care what they do as long as they still get their album out and it sounds good. if they blow this, theyll never recover

[Guitar_Jester]

Says it what? Understand I don't -_-'

Crap review full of crap.

[Sibanakk]

thats nutty

[ozzynator]

dooncan wrote:

UG get this sorted NOW.

+1

This article = Garbage
Get the writing and the facts straight next time.

[Guitar_Poet]

horribly written article, lol.

[Shredder Guitar]

wlcm2themachine wrote:

In the words of Dewey Cox:

What the **** did he just say?

In the words of the great Colonel Sanders:

I'm too drunk to taste this chicken.


Lol. and yah, this is old and wrong. Complete misunderstanding, and it makes Metallica seems like the bad guys every time.

[Ichimaru]

Whoever wrote this should be banned from the keyboard for the rest of their days.

[headmunke]

highwind5150 wrote:

you know that shouldn't be the headline...making metallica out to look like bad guys...again. Making it sound like a quote from the band...screw that nonsense...I'll just keep watching my Fly on the Wall videos until the album comes out.

[headmunke]

headmunke wrote:

highwind5150 wrote:

you know that shouldn't be the headline...making metallica out to look like bad guys...again. Making it sound like a quote from the band...screw that nonsense...I'll just keep watching my Fly on the Wall videos until the album comes out.

Sorry bout the fat finger. +1 dude

[MetalCro]

Paul DB wrote:

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what.


Thats pretty subjective. Take St. Anger, that pretty much (if not totally) sucked.

man ,thats just your opinion, you should look at the statistics, it was sold in more than 2 million copies(more than any megadeth album) it was first in 30 countries, and i wrealy like it and listen to it a lot, i am not saying this is the classic metallica but the album was good.....

[slash_chord]

i think metallica members hava an amnisia or they just got too old ...they dont even remeber that they used to be good in the 80's, i cant believe they need rick rubin to tell them to make an album like in the 80's...like daaa, i could tell them that.

[JPetrucci25]

no matter what happens with metallica, journalists are always gonna make metallica seem like the bad guys. they tell the story how they want people to understand it. metallica is my favorite band, does the article change shit about my opinion of them: no.

keep going metallica. new album will kick ass. and who cares if you cant get there music free? its worth it.

[JPetrucci25]

Paul DB wrote:

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what.


Thats pretty subjective. Take St. Anger, that pretty much (if not totally) sucked.


man ,thats just your opinion, you should look at the statistics, it was sold in more than 2 million copies(more than any megadeth album) it was first in 30 countries, and i wrealy like it and listen to it a lot, i am not saying this is the classic metallica but the album was good.....



yea metalcro gives a good opinion. i like the album alot and who cares if it isint like what they did in the 70's and 80's, that shits hard to beat.

[guitargod21136]

Wow- This guy is AMAZING at journalism.

[boxcarblink94]

whoever wrote this article needs to be shot

[tyler_coleman]

MadMojo wrote:

classic Metallica.

smb wrote:

Old and wrong. The whole thing was a misunderstanding and Metallica have asked websites to put reviews back up.

Classic Ultimate-Guitar.

[mikeh07]

Yeah this seems more like a blog than an article.
Thanks UG.

[cukd7x-a2-]

PMS!

[CrazyPigeon]

JPetrucci25 wrote:

Paul DB wrote:

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what.


Thats pretty subjective. Take St. Anger, that pretty much (if not totally) sucked.


man ,thats just your opinion, you should look at the statistics, it was sold in more than 2 million copies(more than any megadeth album) it was first in 30 countries, and i wrealy like it and listen to it a lot, i am not saying this is the classic metallica but the album was good.....



yea metalcro gives a good opinion. i like the album alot and who cares if it isint like what they did in the 70's and 80's, that shits hard to beat.

Stats mean shit to be honest. People were hoping for a decent album, but were met with an Epic Fail. Even Metallica don't like mentioning it.

Also, Metallica were never around in the 70s, although, it is true that there greatest stuff came from the 80s.

[fridge_raider]

I have never read an article so poorly written in my entire life. It was barely understandable in places.

[clawsofsteel]

And yes, if you only like a fraction of the albums that are produced by a band then you aren't a true fan. TRUE fans will stick with a band through thick and thin and will purchase and listen to albums simply because they are fans of the band, not because they think the music is good or bad.
you're a ****ing retard. if you don't like the album, why force yourself to listen to it. i hate stupid people on ug ****ing christ

[clawsofsteel]

And yes, if you only like a fraction of the albums that are produced by a band then you aren't a true fan. TRUE fans will stick with a band through thick and thin and will purchase and listen to albums simply because they are fans of the band, not because they think the music is good or bad.
you're a ****ing retard. if you don't like the album, why force yourself to listen to it. i hate stupid people on ug ****ing christ

[salsawords]

The reason the article makes no sense is the UG writer copied it off of the original website and accidentally copied some links on the side. It makes sense if you click the original article link.

[korn_dawg]

smb wrote:

Metallica's press management asked the reviews to be taken down, and Metallica asked for them to be put back up. Their management making those requests was based on a misunderstanding. Understand now? Or do I need to make it simpler for you?

Believe it or not, my comment was based on the information in the article, in which the opening paragraph states that it was Metallica themselves. The article later states that it was Metallica's management making this request, despite their earlier statement that it was Metallica. This, in fact, is a paradox and is a result of bad journalism. Do explain further how this article doesn't have two conflicting statements.

[MetallicSoul92]

Related StoriesMetallica may be starring in the next Guitar Hero title A brave new world: the music biz at the dawn of 2008 Indie labels "revolting" against eMusic's low prices? Indie music, meet telco behemoth: eMusic partners with AT&T Here's the scenario: internationally known heavy metal band with long history in the business invites music critics in London to listen to six tracks off the band's forthcoming album. Those critics then write reviews based on what they've heard. Despite the total lack of any non-disclosure agreements and the fact that the band must have known what it was doing, its management then contacted the blogs in question and asked them to take down the reviews.

related at all? other than the metallica guitar hero?

[DonCorleone72]

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...

Me too, horrible journalism.

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

So to be a "true fan" you need to support them blindly?

[not_dead_enough]

#####

To clear up people misunderstanding my original comment:

-I NEVER said you have to love every song with blind faith! All I meant is that the last 4 albums are just as much Metallica albums as the first 4, so don't think that just because you may not like them that they don't count. If anything it's the last 4 albums that the band was in it's most powerful state, and had less to answer to to record-producers etc (eg. it's no secret that Metallica did not want 'Escape' on RTL yet they were forced to do it; compared with St Anger which was everything Metallica wanted to do at the time, it was all their idea).

-Yes I for one LOVE St Anger! If you don't like it then don't listen to it. In fact if you don't like anything after The Black Album then don't listen to those albums at all, I'm not gonna tell you to. But as I said above, they are Metallica albums too, and being a fan of only the first of Metallica's many diverse styles gives you less right to critique their work than someone who can appreciate the band for what they are. Having someone who only likes the first 4 albums review any other Metallica album is like having a horror movie fan review a bunch of 1930's musicals; of course they're gonna hate it!

-Sure there are Metallica songs I like more than others, and I hate fan-boy posers more than anyone else. But I'm sick of this attitude that 'it's cool to hate St Anger because everyone does' - I remember you all said how good it was when it came out until the person next to you decided to hate it. Next time Metallica come to my city they should let the people who actually like MOST of their songs buy tickets first.

-And lastly, "yeah, but...St Anger REALLY did suck!" is not a valid comeback against all this!

And this all coming from a MASSIVE Megadeth fan!

#####

[Vornik]

One of the most poorly written articles I've seen on UG.

[JakoSnako]

lol, serious question: can metallica be blamed for this? or just the management? i literally have no idea except the bare details that reviews were posted, then forced to be taken down

[Skuzzmo]

not_dead_enough wrote:

#####


-And lastly, "yeah, but...St Anger REALLY did suck!" is not a valid comeback against all this!

And this all coming from a MASSIVE Megadeth fan!

#####

So is 'In my opinion I thought ST Anger sucked' a valid comeback?

Actually, don't answer that....I don't care what you consider a vaild comeback....

[ripdbdarrell90]

therescue06 wrote:

CowboyUp wrote:

The second paragraph is nearly unreadable.


i thought i was too baked to understand that...guess not.

same here lol

[roosterfx1]

bleargh..... im getting sick of crap metallica news. i just want that damn album to come out already, is it too much to ask for?

[cj878]

lol this makes no sense.

[David_Bowie=GOD]

JPetrucci25 wrote:

Paul DB wrote:

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what.



Thats pretty subjective. Take St. Anger, that pretty much (if not totally) sucked.


man ,thats just your opinion, you should look at the statistics, it was sold in more than 2 million copies(more than any megadeth album) it was first in 30 countries, and i wrealy like it and listen to it a lot, i am not saying this is the classic metallica but the album was good.....



yea metalcro gives a good opinion. i like the album alot and who cares if it isint like what they did in the 70's and 80's, that shits hard to beat.

Umm metallica wasnt around in the 70s
And to the people saying that to be a fan u must stick by them at all times with their music, that still doesnt make up for the fact that I didnt like reload and St. Anger was shit. Sure it may have sold well, but who cares if it did. The question is, was it good? And is it what ur fans wanted? The band should try to give the fans what they want because if they dont then some may stray away.

Also, whoever wrote this needs to retake their english classes. Ive never seen such a poorly written article.

[CoolDudeMorgasm]

As people, the members of Metallica and all those involved are wankers...

I don't mind their music though.

[Flying Afros]

riteso wrote:

Try clicking on the link to the arstechnica article, and you will understand how this article is just a horribly done cut and paste job. (They accidentally copied the sidebar into the 2nd paragraph, which is why it reads like crap)

Haha youre right. What a bunch of amateur losers. Cant even do a cut and paste job right. And the story's incorrect in places too. This is old news furthermore. Typical unprofessional UG *****s. Ban me, i dont care

hahahahaha

[5_Strings]

CowboyUp wrote:

The second paragraph is nearly unreadable.

LOL

[AJthemusicman]

riteso wrote:

Haha youre right. What a bunch of amateur losers. Cant even do a cut and paste job right. And the story's incorrect in places too. This is old news furthermore. Typical unprofessional UG *****s. Ban me, i dont care

I'd say he put it best

Took me a few minutes to decipher this article and figure out what the hell was going on

[Night_Lights]

UG's got bloody 14 year olds reporting news now....

[Anno[fzk]]

not_dead_enough wrote:

GibsonVdude wrote:

Kelicon :
am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?


no im pretty sure i was too...

Me too, horrible journalism.

And for the record, a TRUE Metallica fan supports the band no matter what. Liking only the first 4 of 10+ releases makes you no such a fan, and hence your opinion less important on this band.

Nothing makes you a "TRUE" fan. If you like all their discography, good for you. If someone else doesn't like it, good for them.

This article is pretty damn funny. I don't care if it was a misunderstanding or not, just good for chuckles.
Second paragraph was really twisted up.

[GoWithTheFlow]

Kelicon wrote:

am i the only one that was completely lost throughout most of the artical?

you are not alone. boring article. and on top of that its bs i hate this. why cant we just not hear about every time metallica has to go to the bathroom?

[IArePlayGuitar]

Holy crap. UG, please, HIRE BETTER JOURNALISTS.