Emo Music Attacked Over Teen Suicide

An inquest in Maidstone has heard that Hannah Bond, a 13 year-old girl from Kent, committed suicide by hanging herself - and emo music has been blamed, reports NME.com.

Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger Sykes, the coroner who gave the verdict of suicide yesterday (May 7), suggested that the fact that Bond was an obsessive fan of such music was linked to her death.

The inquest heard that Bond had discussed with friends the "glamour" of suicide, and was obsessed with American band My Chemical Romance. She had a picture of an emo girl with bloody wrists on her Bebo page.

Bond's father Ray explained that his daughter had had an episode of self-harm prior to her suicide, which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony.

Heather Bond condemned emo music, saying: "There are [emo] websites that show pink teddies hanging themselves. She called emo a fashion and I thought it was normal. Hannah was a normal girl. She had loads of friends. She could be a bit moody but I thought it was just because she was a teenager."

As he gave the verdict of suicide, coroner Sykes said: "The emo overtones concerning death and associating it with glamour I find very disturbing."

Comments

[Mithaearon]

** First up I am very sorry for the families loss. No one deserves to bury their children. **

Tbh I would agree that Emi music does cause deaths, music that bad would make me want to end it all. :P

[Josh Laiho]

** First up I am very sorry for the families loss. No one deserves to bury their children. **

Tbh I would agree that Emi music does cause deaths, music that bad would make me want to end it all. :P

Yeah, that is bad when parents have to bury their own children.

But it's funny that emo bands are being blamed for this. I hate emo music it is so boring and stupid. It would also make me want to kill myself.

[Cacophonic]

My Chemical Romance. Lulz.

I believe the emo bands should be the ones killing themselves. We'd have a lot less poser guitarists running around if it happened like that.

R.I.P. Hannah.

[DREAM EVIL 1138]

my chemical romance is not an emo band, just a suckish one.

[Red33]

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

[strat0blaster]

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

[cheese_weasel]

Seems like another version of "lets blame our kids delinquent behaviour on GTA". If a thirteen year old want to commit suicide there is more than just the type of music she listens to at fault. Maybe the parents? Just maybe.
And I do agree that it is always sad when the parents have to bury their own child.

[metallicaforevr]

I just want to say, FUCK YOU EMO MUSIC!
now you all know what it feels like being told your music assists suicide, just like they blamed metal music for columbine and other school shootings. kind of stupid right? maybe if these "emo" bands didnt fully promote hatred of ones life and parents, and borderline encourage self inflicted pain there would be a lot more happy people around here.

However i am really sorry to hear this young child felt that taking her own life was the route to take.

[cthuludawn21]

yes. the girl killed her self because Gerard Way infected her brain and caused her to do malicious things. it couldn't POSSIBLY be that the girl herself or, god forbid, her parents, could be to blame.

[sticknick]

"Let's get this straight folks: If your kid kills himself over anything that comes out of Gene Simmons mouth, then you're just not doing your f**king job as a parent."

- Dennis Miller

[Red33]

Hell I bet she didn't even listen to the band, everyone remember Manson and Columbine? People jumped the gun blamed the band, then it turned out that they really didn't listen to it.

[Moozze]

DREAM EVIL 1138 wrote:

my chemical romance is not an emo band, just a suckish one.

Thats contradicting...

[frankv]

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

I think the idea is that the emo subculture glamourises suicide.

[Kornholic]

Emo music should be banned. Its the cause of all evil. Thats why there are american troops in Iraq. hehehe

[Thursdae]

^^ +1.. the girl had issues that the parents thought were normal.

[Moozze]

Moozze wrote:

DREAM EVIL 1138 wrote:

my chemical romance is not an emo band, just a suckish one.

Thats contradicting...

Sorry, just read it again and it doesn't have to be contradicting.

People blame lots of things on music or for example, games, I think the influence of those things is overrated.

[MyNameBeMikal]

As much I am annoyed by those sorts of bands, I think people are just stupid and looking for an excuse. The girl was probably depressed on her own, and would have done it anyways. The music isn't going to push her that far had she not already been deep in it on her own. And everyone else around her needs a scapegoat rather than blaming the dead. Just about every "emo" band has a quota of songs they release AGAINST suicide. i.e. Anything on The Black Parade, Good Charlotte "Hold On", Blink "Adams Song" (Not so much emo, but no band that is accusedly emo is the same as the bands that were originally emo, SDRE, JEW, Fugazi).

[Thursdae]

Yeah prolly shoulda quoted him.. didn't know that like 15 people would post in 2 minutes haha:

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

[Mithaearon]

MyNameBeMikal wrote:

As much I am annoyed by those sorts of bands, I think people are just stupid and looking for an excuse. The girl was probably depressed on her own, and would have done it anyways. The music isn't going to push her that far had she not already been deep in it on her own. And everyone else around her needs a scapegoat rather than blaming the dead. Just about every "emo" band has a quota of songs they release AGAINST suicide. i.e. Anything on The Black Parade, Good Charlotte "Hold On", Blink "Adams Song" (Not so much emo, but no band that is accusedly emo is the same as the bands that were originally emo, SDRE, JEW, Fugazi).

I live 10 minutes drive from Maidstone (where the girl was from) and if I lived there I would top myself too, add in emo music in to the equation is a wonder she made it to 13.

[atc228]

At least it's not metal this time...

But honestly, anyone who lets music take that much control over their life has more problems than just being a music fan...

Now maybe she had some prior disposition, then when emo came around it didn't mix well with her prior disposition and that is what caused it. I highly doubt that it was purely "emo" music, as much as I don't care for the genre.

Once again, they are just looking for someone to blame instead of taking responsibility and realizing that they should have tried to intervene earlier. (Especially since they said she had a self-harm episode before.) Now I'm not saying it is just bad parenting, because it's damn hard being a parent, let alone a parent with a child who has problems that you don't know how to solve. What I am saying, is that it was a mix of factors and they should recognize that.

Also, instead of warning parents against letting their kids listen to emo music, they should be warning parents to look for signs, and self harm tendencies. Something like:
"we lost our child because we didn't see the signs. We encourage all other parents to learn about, and look for these signs, in the hopes that it may save a life. Be part of your child's life, know about their hobbies and interests. By doing so, you will find out if they are taking a hobby too far. Listening to music and certain genres is great for kids because it gives them a sense of identity. But, like anything in life, it can be taken too far, and you should watch out for that."


But that is just my opinion...

[Trynstopme]

Well. I'm not surprised in the least.

Music as suckish as emo would make me kill myself too. Is it fair to blame MCR? i wish it was - maybe we could get em to stop making music that much faster but whatever.

+1 for cheese_weasel though. Theres more to a kid committing suicide than just bad music tastes.
and it is a sad day indeed when a parent must bury their own children.

strat0blaster wrote:
I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

+100

[Cacophonic]

To be honest, I think killing people on GTA makes it to where I WON'T kill in real life.

I don't want to go to jail, but it's fun pretending, right?

[browar]

Songs, even the worst, can't make people commit suicide.

[NemX162]

Lol, MCR is not emo. Emo initiation? The ignorance of the world will never cease to make me puke.

[happyman1990]

where's the parenting? oh wait, they let their daughter listen to MCR! They deserve to be hung!

[Fade_One_Fuel]

Hmm it is quite clear that her parents have absolutely no idea what Emo music actually. Lets face it, their daughter killed herself and they are looking for something to fix the blame on. When of course it is not the fault of the music. The music was probably the only thing that gave her happiness in life.

[metallicaforevr]

NemX162 wrote:

Lol, MCR is not emo. Emo initiation? The ignorance of the world will never cease to make me puke.

yeah its surprising what people come up with these days, isnt it?

[jpgilbert701]

I feel no sympathy for this girl. Anybody that commits suicide doesn't deserve to be remembered by many people for ending their problems in such a cowardly, selfish way. On the other hand I feel bad for the parents because they have to bury their daughter. I also think people need to stop blaming music for murders and suicide because it is your choice in the end to go through with something. You dont do something because Ozzy or Halford says so.

[Emenius Sleepus]

either: one less idiot in the world,

or: there are many other issues that probably played a part and that are going to be completely overlooked.

[thelovingdead]

either: one less idiot in the world,

or: there are many other issues that probably played a part and that are going to be completely overlooked.

Exactly!

p.s. Green Day sucks balls

[thesecondman]

You know, this really has nothing to do with music. "rock and roll is satan music," remember? I find it ridiculous that you guys are even mocking her for suicide tho. As stupid as it is, it is a really serious subject. Did any of you guys watch the new disturbed vid? Seriously. Lay off the girl. It's the tendency of our culture right now, and it's something that needs to change, but we can't just blame music. The blame lies with us. Chances are, someone saw this coming but said nothing. I've known people that have committed suicide and people that have cut, and it's serious. Get your self-righteous metal heads out of your butts and be aware.

[duncang]

I hope every single person bashing emo music or indeed this girl on this column gets permabanned. Show some respect.

My Chemical Romance is a poor example, as they in fact actively try to stop self harm and suicide in their fans. The problem is that the sort of imagery that's found in bands like MCR (though MCR are on the less extreme end) does get people making images like those slit-wrist ones, which will have probably influenced her decision more than the music or the bands themselves.

[Angelic_Demon]

People don't become depressed by depressive music, depressed people just start listening to depressive music. Same goes for suicidal music

[pinky_demon]

Ohhh, when will it end...when will it end

[Comeback Kiddd]

I blame the people for being idiots by letting themselves get brainwashed or consumed by this music. sure almost all of emo music either suck or talk about suicide but comonnn. that doesnt mean you have too

[Bazilisck311]

My Chemical Romance doesn't write music about suicide.

Another frivolous attempt by parents to refuse responsibility for the well being of their children.

[Cheesepuff]

Emo music doesnt cause death. Thats like saying that obese people are fat because of Mcdonalds. This was a result of bad parenting, like many suicides supposedly related to music. Notice how they didn't disclose any reason or detail to the public about the suicide itself and what might have caused it and just blamed it on a trend. MCR's songs aren't even depressing, and MCR themselves also deny emo, depression, and cutting yourself. In fact, the music may have been one of the happiest aspects of her life.

I hope everybody that bashes MCR here, saying they suck balls, and using this suicide as a means to justify themselves die of cancer.

[Matt Chavie]

It's just music these stupid ass kids are looking for excuses, and I'm going to blame their parents for sucking ass and not teaching them about reality. And since emo initiation is cutting, is metal initiation hating on emo so much it's cliche and completely overused. Every got the joke years ago, we know you guys hate "emo" you can stop broadcasting it.

[Kazue00]

Emo music sucks worse than any music ever created by man, however i would not blame it on the music for the kids death, i believe it was completely the parents fault.

[Travis Tricky]

Frank Zappa said it best:

"I wrote a song about dental floss, but did anyone's teeth get cleaner?"

[guitarace010]

OK so first off, I think that emo music generally sucks, with a few very small exceptions. But I do have to say that as much as it blows it isn't making people kill themselves. Blaming MCR and emo for this girl's suicide is like blaming Ozzy for the "Suicide Solution" suicides or metal music for Columbine. It doesn't make any sense. I listen to Metal and I don't kill people in fact over 4,000 high school seniors in my home town (back in 2006) listened to metal and none of us killed people. I'm sorry but this is just another case of parent doing a shitty job raising their kids and then blaming it on everyone but the guilty party, themselves.

[GNR's Fan]

"suggested that the fact that Bond was an obsessive fan of such music was linked to her death."

I stopped reading after this, i feel bad for the family.

But this really is the usual pile of shit, he played games, listened to rock music, he watched winnie the pooh bla bla bla that's porbably why she killed herself.

[alexxero]

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

[Kenny_NJ]

My chemical romance is not a part of the emo garbage. They are actually much better than those trashy "metal core"or "grind core" fashion oriented, skinny pants boys bands out there today.
They are fairly decent and the structure of their music and the guitarists are clearly one of the best in contemporary pop rock history.

[wbk666]

im sorry but theres so many posters on here who should be banned now, to even try to make a joke of the subject is disgraceful to say the least.

to blame any sort of music for someone commiting suicide is silly, the parents should look a little closer to home before blaming a band.

[jamie_hough]

Firstly, emo sucks ass! seocndly, suicide happens everyday, but when its other kids doing it who dont listen to a genre of rock music, its not a big deal... doesnt make sense to me. the parents need somethign to blame i guess... someone needs to tell them about that bill hicks sketch... might put it in perspective...

[Firewind Raging]

The parents probably could have ket a closer eye on her, her "loads of friends" should have done the same.

Emo music doesn't make me want to kill myself, it just makes me want to listen to something else.

[pyritmann]

sorry to the family, alot of this emo stuff is really bad for the brain BUT, the parents should have been smart enough to KNOW that a moody 13 year old shouldnt be listening to it. they should have stepped in. and MCR isnt emo music, they just have emo pics. RIP

[skywayavenue]

wouldnt the the emo initiation thing be a red flag to the parents? why didnt they talk to her then when they had the chance?

[jonnyharris1]

The people making comments about 'the emos should kill themselves so we can get rid of emo music' should quite frankly be ashamed at themselves. I find it appauling that people could possibly think something like that of a situation like this.
Blaming emo music for this is a gross simplification of the situation and im sure there were many things that would drive her to such an act. I do however think the emo culture itself is one of the main problems and the idea of self harm being glamourous is something that seriously needs to be changed

Also , if she had already self harmed once, you would of thought the parents could have done more about it,she deffinately sounds like she needed councelling or something

[PrincessJoe]

teenagers try to imitate. if you listen to certain music you blame the whole world with no reason, you get sad with no reason...etc.
in contrast to the music of the sixties music today tries to create a movement or an ideology although there is no need.

[xxAlBeRtxx]

i dont see what MCR has anything to do with this. they dont really promote killing yourself in any of their songs

[TFBISE16]

Emo's are absolutely pathetic, grow up.

[ImagineTheThorn]

I may not like MCR, but I respect them as musicians. And if any band should even come close to being blamed, it should be Hawthorne Heights with that damn "Ohio Is For Lovers" song, the song clearly states, "So cut my wrists and black my eyes." How much more self-infliction of pain and suicide can you get than that?

[CaTeArS]

This world is so ****ed up

[hobo467]

R.I.P.

I am not touching this article with a hundred-foot pole. One thing I will add, however, is about Gerard Way's comment about emo. That was said only to save his band's reputation. If he's insulting bands like Minor Threat and Rites of Spring, then he's basically insulting most of his friends' influences i.e. Thursday and other New Jersey bands. In short, this is tragic, MCR makes catchy, popular music that is not true emo in any way, and Gerard Way is a completely idiotic douche.

[craiganders]

"Bond's father Ray explained that his daughter had had an episode of self-harm prior to her suicide, which she told him was an emo initiation ceremony."

-Note to parents: if something like that happens, DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT. don't blame music, and then just sit back and wait for it to get worse. emo music might be depressing but so is lack of accountability of people to raise their own damn kids.

[jonathanonfire]

frankv wrote:

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.I think the idea is that the emo subculture glamourises suicide.

this is true. stupid kids. they'll latch onto anything to belong. it's so sad she took it that far. ay. sorry for their loss. although their parents should've played a more attentive role in their child's life.

and mcr is emo/pop-punk... no matter what any little 14 year old obsessed fan might say and what myspace says. loll. lol certainly not metal, by any means. they might throw in little cheesy solos now and then but that doesn't make them metal. that's like calling korn death metal. it just isn't happening.
and also mcr are the KINGS of todays emo fashion movement (see other mainstream bands: green day, atreyu) among young teens. other scene's fashions are pretty bad too, mind you, but not as bad as that.
horrible. r.i.p.

[sheezor]

jpgilbert701 wrote:
You dont do something because Ozzy or Halford says so.

Only if Lemmy says so.

[mawood83]

ok so emo is very over-dramatic music..i like a lot of it..not MCR, but some of the groups like taking back sunday. She was obviously an obsessive little girl..Gerard Way never told her to kill herself..if she's going to kill herself because she thinks its cool then someone f*cked up somewhere along the line..ie parents not paying attention..hey let's all blame pop culture..we're sooo perfect our daughter couldnt possibly have killed herself because of us!! And what the hell is an "emo initiation"??? i didnt know you had to be in a gang or cult to listen to music these days...guess i just listen cuz i like it and dont try to emulate FICTIONAL STORIES!! Parents please try to tell your kids the difference between fact and entertainment..my God!!!! Guess what millions of kids have watched movies like Die Hard..and i havent read of any cases of cars flying into hellicopters...obviously something wrong mentally or phsycologically with this girl just like there is with stalkers who create an obsession with someone and think that person loves them...CRAZY!!

[adslam3]

this is just like when marilyn manson killed all those kids at columbine....ouch! too soon?
anyways, suicide is a serious matter and a lot of times there are so many different fators that play a part in it. oftentimes the biggest influences start right at home. AND i dont think a coroner is someone that can tell if someone committed suicide because of music..don't they usually confirm or investigate the cause of dead i.e. drugs, heart attack, suicide etc? did he find music in her veins? come on people!

[Mattallica1]

stupid emo's and music just setting a bad example, they have mental health issues lol

r.i.p

[HFR]

Josh Laiho wrote:

** First up I am very sorry for the families loss. No one deserves to bury their children. **

Yes true but
My Chemical Romance isnt an emo band?

Tbh I would agree that Emi music does cause deaths, music that bad would make me want to end it all. :P


Yeah, that is bad when parents have to bury their own children.

But it's funny that emo bands are being blamed for this. I hate emo music it is so boring and stupid. It would also make me want to kill myself.

[Tallman1984]

Yeah, so I guess the parents aren't responsible at all for this. Nope, MCR put the noose in her hand. Just like Judas Priest put the shotgun in those teenagers' hands so one of them could kill himself, just like Marilyn Manson purposely instructed those students to shoot up Columbine, just like Blink-182's anti-suicide song somehow instructed a teenager to commit suicide. Right? If stuff like this was ever really the case at all, I wish the parents who are irresponsible enough to do something as juvenile as passing the blame onto musicians should listen to plenty of emo themselves and do this planet a favor (this also goes for anybody who was ever in the PRMC).

[Metal_Rich]

That's her own fault for joining in this trend. Her mother knew of the girl's glamorous views of suicide, yet she didn't say anything?! Her Dad didn't mind her 'initiating' into some group by cutting herself?!

Bad parenting is the blame, as usual, not music/video games/films. Learn to stop blaming others, you foolish people.

[slash_angus_VH]

this is exactly like when they blamed Megadeth's "À Tout le Monde" for the Dawson shooting in fall of 2006. The music is not to blame here, it is the attitude and culture that comes with the music, and that is sometimes taken too seriously by troubled individuals (like Kimveer Gill, or this suicidal girl) that is to blame.

[lesismore91]

Okay, I hate Emo music just as much as the next guy but blaming music for such tragedies is just false reasoning to give people comfort in their loss. We saw the same thing in the Columbine Massacre a few years ago, people threw the blame at Marylin Manson, claiming that his music and his message was the sole cause of that awful event. The truth is there is no sole cause or reason for these incidents, it's just human nature to find reasons for them (real or fake) to better allow them to cope with their emotions.

[stuey22]

uh oh, here we go, the same thing that happened with metal is going to happen with emo...

[Zertuche]

Its wrong that something so stupid and retarded can cause death. I feel sorry for the girls parents and family, but emo is just a fad. It should dissapear in a couple years.

[Shredder Shaun]

u cnt blame music for suicide when does a song ever say go kill yourself specifically to the listener? i think emo music is the shittest genre in the world but u cnt blame it for teen suicide its jst a trend/coincidence tht emos seem to be miserable gits who want to kill themselves

[manb3arpig]

my chem. sucks... id kill myslef if i had to listen to em too

[Spay]

-facepalm-

Seriously? Holy ****ing shit...

Kids today are so...God...I can't even think of a word. This is so freaking...son of bitch. Seriously, are kids today that big a slave to the mainstream and so disillusioned that they can't see through the romantisized images with their common sense. It's insane.

I guess, if one cool kid jumped off a bridge, would you do it?

I guess the answer is now "Yes"

[captainperoxide]

Red33 wrote:

Yup music killed you daughter. It couldn't be her crazy ideas that suicide was glamourous.

+1
And yeah, get over the fact that not everything happens for a specific reason. You can't blame someone's suicide on something except themselves...because THEY DID IT.

[Lumeister]

lol, My Chemical Romance are the picture on an emo news story on UG, therefore their words don't mean shit.

Society will blame anyone as long as they keep their own well-being. It seems to be every man for himself, and music is no exception. What do we do? These accusations are going to totally kill metal.

On top of all this blasphemous bullshit, I'd love to see them suing a whole genre of music.

R.I.P. Hannah.

(Does anybody find this kind of ironic...Kill Hannah?)

[Giant Tool]

what retards, did the dad mean he was okay with her self harming for initiation into a club?????
music isn't making people kill themselves, its people who aren't mentally right and think that because they listen to "emo" music then they must be "emos" and must therefore cut themselves and kill themselves.
this is rediculous!!!!!

[Metal_Contact]

Darwin's Natural selection, if your stupid or not fit for this world you should not be here. Now that this junk band has done its job they should participate in this selection

[742627000017]

R.I.P. Hannah (even though she was an emo)
Lets let society blame emo music for that so it would go away

[Beakwithteeth]

This is f*cking retarded. Music never killed anyone plain and simple. Those parents need to take some f*cking responsibility!

[kumamilesbear]

i find it sad that a girl hung herself, but i also find it sad that she, and everybody on here, has such a misconception of what emo is. its a style of music that is just emotional, not necessarily depressing. mcr isnt emo, its just alt rock with some metal and punk elements in it. bands like sunny day real estate and mineral are emo bands. and its not necessarily depressing music.

[Beakwithteeth]

742627000017 wrote:

R.I.P. Hannah (even though she was an emo)Lets let society blame emo music for that so it would go away

Everyone who has to add this is an *******. Just because she is an "emo" doesn't make her less worthwhile as a person.

[Jonny92]

haha
i dont like emo music

but blaming any music for suicide (unless it has subliminal messagin or summat) is quite rediculous)

i remember reading about all the claims that fade to black by metallica was the cause of many suicides
rubbish

and what kind of a parent would let their child cut themselves and think its normal?
seriously... wow

but yerr go ahead and sue emo music
cuz it does suck

[Jawshuwa]

TFBISE16 wrote:

Emo's are absolutely pathetic, grow up.

It can be considerably difficult to "grow up" when your parents lack the competence to raise you.

[fairycake92]

jeez...im from maidstone..and ive seen her around...**** that..

[WOWdoritos]

" Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger Sykes, "

Someone ****ed up there.

[6Slay6tanic6]

Its easy to become so confused when your at that age, with lots of hormones flying left right and center - the last thing you need is the glamorising of suicide, which i do agree this emo fashion promotes.

This emo trend is offering an escape hatch, to these troubled kids, which can be so be so attractive to them. Its a shame they dont find music that strengthens and matures you instead of this bullshit.

I dont think you were a bad kid Hannah, just your normal teenage girl trying to find her indentity and explore her personality in this world.

RIP

[Vrstone87]

There is an eo band called Kill Hannah....irony?

[Vrstone87]

*emo

[timi_hendrix]

"Emo" music only causes suicide if the child is a moron who takes it too seriously or has problems in their life already.

RIP and that.

[desimate]

typical, music used as a scapegoat once again, as much as i severely detest emo music, it shouldnt be to blame here. it couldnt be the fact the girl had psychological problems, and as harsh as it is for saying it, it is partially her parents fault for not taking any notice, in fact, it may have contributed, but no, music has to be to blame.

same as columbine, the shooters had issues, murdered innocent people, and hapenned to like marilyn manson, waddya know, we have a scapegoat.

the girl had issues, and although she may have related, her parents didnt take any notice, they should take some ****in responsibility instead of blaming ouside parties.

[desimate]

*related to the music*

[Jawshuwa]

You know, it's obvious that people don't read through the comments, or even half of them. I've read about ten of the same posts by ten different individuals.

Either way, I agree with those ten plus posts. Music as a scapegoat, parents lacking involvement/support, depressed children listen to depressing music, depressing music does not make children depressed, et cetera.

Hell, I get more sad listening to "Another Day" by Dream Theater than I would any "emo" song.

[ctb]

duncang wrote:

"I hope every single person bashing emo music or indeed this girl on this column gets permabanned. Show some respect.

My Chemical Romance is a poor example, as they in fact actively try to stop self harm and suicide in their fans. The problem is that the sort of imagery that's found in bands like MCR (though MCR are on the less extreme end) does get people making images like those slit-wrist ones, which will have probably influenced her decision more than the music or the bands themselves."

thank you.

bloody idiots on this site.

it's terrible how the trend (or in fact, all trends for this matter) has evolved. we can blame music all we want, but this is just a tragic case of such a pretty, young girl taking her own life.

my condolences to the family.

[isabiggles]

can i just say one thing.
my chemical romance are not emo. they are pop punk. they are an MTV based idea of what emo is.
this girl obviously has no idea what real emo music is and is just following a trend.
i just read a newspaper article on this and it said she told her parents that it was part of the emo trend and that it was part of her 'initiation' to become an emo.
load of rubbish IMO.

[ilovesoupandpie]

Three things:

Does this Remind you of columbine anyone. (see desimate)

Where were the parents at.

Don't you think that maybe the possibility that she was already suicidal influenced her choice of fashion, towards one that glamourised/normalised what she was already feeling.

RIP, poor kid, no one took the time to actually talk to her about her feelings.

[guitarist41]

For the mose part, the people around the person who commits suicide are to blame.

Once somebody starts talking about suicide in any detail, it usually means they're having suicidal thoughts.

Geex, I don't think there is any music that would make you want to kill yourself...apart from indie.

[jimmyhotpants]

i'm not the biggest fan of emo but that girl had a seriously warped view of what it's all about

[guitarist41]

isabiggles wrote:
she told her parents that it was part of the emo trend and that it was part of her 'initiation' to become an emo.

Lol?

[otizeta]

did she get delusion? mental illness? or something like that? i think it may be tii early to justify the music. btw i dun like emo at all.

[stevezy]

my chemical romance is the next judas priest? whoda thought...

[Anavrin224]

Maybe the family should have found out why their daughter wanted to kill herself instead of putting the blame on a genre of music. It's the 21st century "devil made me do it" routine.

[rhcp_freak]

WOWdoritos wrote:

" Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger Sykes, "

Someone ****ed up there.

Both Bond's mother, Heather and Roger Sykes, the coroner who gave the verdict of suicide yesterday (May 7), suggested that the fact that Bond was an obsessive fan of such music was linked to her death.

L2 read on.

[otizeta]

tii--> early
sorry for the typo.

[teo_huat]

this is why religion is imortant in one life..

[the1]

Wow

MCR write anti suicide songs like Headfirst for Halos.
Teenagers is about how they don't understand the whole emo culture following them.

Parents need to stop looking for scapegoats. MCR is just pop rock.

[highwind5150]

all jokes aside about how terrible emo music is...(cuz it is). Where were the parents?? That's the first thing that should be mentioned. Not the ****ing music. Rest in peace Hannah.

[Zanon]

this is completely stupid, emo music has nothing to do with suicide. The whole wrist cutting thing is just dire you have to be quite gullable to actually think that's what all the cool kids do ?

What about all these violent movies and such that are plastered over TV every day, and hell bands like morbid angel and other death metal bands talk about mutilation but you dont see kids jumping into meat grinders and shagging crosses to fit in

[C1osur3]

This is like blaming Marilyn Manson for Columbine or something completely outrageous like that...

When it comes down to it, music is merely an external influence...the decision of whether someone wants to do something will always remain within their own hands.

[YoungMelvin]

people dying is never a nice thing and this has to be tragic for the family but to be honest emo music and "so called" emo people are just loaded with too much ****in selfpity... most of these people only dress like that and follow the whole lifestyle because the rest of the damn city does...emos definitely a fashion thing...and after years of kidding yourself that everything hates you of coarse its goin to screw your head up

[yearzero]

It's always a tragedy when a child dies.

I don't know where to stand on the issue. The one thing I hate about emo culture is how it trivializes depression and turns it into a lifestyle. It seems like such a slap in the face for those of us that are truly depressed and suffer from a real diagnosed mental disorder.

There's nothing "glamorous" about suicide. There's nothing cool about the feelings of worthlessness and self doubt. Dear God Hannah was only 13.


I always hesitate to blame culture for societal ills. I went to high school in a post Columbine environment as a huge Marilyn Manson fan. I was always so mad at how music and video games took the blame for two stupid kids.

I guess I don't know where to stand on this.

Sorry if I was rambling. I've had this issue with "Emo" since the beginning.

[kravitzwasright]

shame.

though i dont blame the girl for killing herself. bands like MCR do seem to glamorize mutilation and death and make it seem like the solution to all problems.

then again, its so typical theyd blame a band for her death.

[Slashrulz]

Well, I don't think this 13 year old girl was much into philosophy, or that she had read Albert Camus or any other existentialist, so I'm guessing, she did kill her self because that kind of music lyrics, C'mon, read From First to Last Lyrics, all they ever sing about is how crappy life is. Now I'm not saying life isn't crappy, but emo music only sees it from a really stupid point of view.
Well that's just my idea...
Music shouldn't be banned, but i just think there's really dumb people in this world that don't think by themselves like this little girl, they are just really easy impressionable.
There is no way to prevent this kind of suicides...

[Zanon]

teo_huat wrote:

this is why religion is imortant in one life..

yeah, just like blowing people up so you can have virgins and glory. and hypocritical preists who go against their beleif and contradict themselves on a daily basis.. OH OUR SAVIOR that..

[desimate]

i think a point i missed before they i thought about now is, they say this music and its depressive subject is to be too blame for suicide, murder etc etc, but alot of emo or ANY music comes from people who have been there themselves, songs such as Jimmy Eat Worlds 'Hear you Me', straight from the heart from personal experience, so if this girl felt something from the music, or it moved her in some sort of way, and that that THAT is wrong, is it being said that artists shouldnt convey their feelings or beliefs in their music or as fans we shouldnt feel the emotion in songs or relate to them in any way cos its wrong? ok yeh its tragic but how often does it happen? its straight up generalising.

cos to me that is bull.

how many people have felt angry, or sad, or even happy because a song has moved them that way. additionally i think its pretty rediculous how alternative music is always to blame, ya never see anyone like amy whinehouse (whos lyrics are completely autobiographical) being blamed for people delving into the world of excess.

[IKnowItHurts]

im sorry for this families loss, but seriously, either she was just misunderstanding of the "scene" and took her own ignorance to the wrong level, or she was just a really trouble 13 year old girl, and the parents need to stop blaming everyone else for their problems, and start blaming themselves.

[Tapping_Ninja]

I just want to point out I'm sorry for the loss and I dislike a lot of emo music... But I don't think music is just the only cause really, in most cases of susicded their is always something else behind it. I guess Death metal makes people wanted to kill other people, and Black metal makes people want to burn churchs... wait black metal does do that... Point is music is most likely not the case for what happen but the whole scene behind the music and not the music itself... SO STOP FUCKING BLAMING MUSIC FOR YOUR OWN FUCKED UP KIDS PROBLEMS!!! and that is directed all parents not just these parents...

[smash119]

It is completely irresponsible and ludicrous to blame entertainment media for violence, suicide, etc. While certain media may give someone an impetus or idea to execute a certain act, it is certain that said person would already be predisposed to such behavior anyway.

It's also impossible to determine any causation. For example, did emo music make her suicidal? Or was she suicidal first and then she decided to listen to emo
music?

My heart goes to her parents. They can hardly be blamed for looking a reason to explain their tragedy, but they will soon realize that they and her friends probably overlooked dozens of warning signs.

[RUSTDOGG666]

Vrstone87 wrote:

There is an eo band called Kill Hannah....irony?

See and everyone says that metal is to blame for suicide. I listen to metal when I want to kill something not for suicide. and omg I cannot believe theres a band called Kill Hannah then come to find out a girl named Hannah actually dies. That is ironic as hell. With much respect I'm sorry this happened and sorry for the families loss, but I would like to say one thing. Maybe someone will get a band going and call it Kill Miley and that annoying bitch will kill herself. If thats too harsh then at least get a band going and call it Kill Trisha and maybe my ex will kill herself. I'm not trying to offend anyone by saying that but I think we can all agree that emo music needs to go away. Make more room for metal. Something actually worth listening to where no one would want to kill themselves over.

[Bigpooh88]

The real question is what a thirteen year old girl doing with a parental adverisery CD's?

My parents wouldn't let me buy Limp Bizket(thank god) or Freak on a Leash when I was 13.

Final argument, don't blame the "emo" music, but the culture

[cwheel3915]

i have never posted at the forums before, ive only read and got guitar tabs, but this topic and the responses by the people here have completely shocked me..

we have experts prove on a daily basis that music, and images can severely alter a child, this shit has been proven.. but because frank zappa said it isnt true we dont believe it? someone actaully refrenced adams song as an "anti-suicide" song, didnt like a bunch of people commit suicide to that one perticular song? and the song itself had no effect? had nothing to do with it? what about the suburban teenager, with parents who tell them they love them everyday, kiss them good night and do everything a loving parent should do, yet the child still commits suicide.

since almost the begging of music we have known that music can affect your state of mind.

perhaps if the parents wouldnt have let theyre child listen to this music it wouldnt have happened, but then again they believed what you all believed music never hurt no one.... except hanna.

it is a fact plain and simple violent music, and violent images promotes violence in children,, this shit has already been proved.. execpt it and realize you shouldnt market suicide music to kids.. how could you sell this shit to kids and look at yourself in the mirror? i feel sorry for everyone who has posted here today.

[Year Zero]

This is like blaming Marilyn Manson for all the school shootings. It's ridiculous. Don't get me wrong I hate emo as much as the next guy, bu tI can also see bullshit when I see it.

[schecter_guy]

i don't ususally blame music for influencing people's behavior (i.e. columbine), but when it comes to emo, that's exactly what's happening.

[wildchild6660]

She mentioned some kind of initiation. So she was apparently a member of a some emo-crazed group. You might wanna blame them rather than the music. There are numerous stories of cults committing murders and mass suicides because their charismatic cult leaders told them to. Never underestimate the power of bad company.

[xheartbreakerx]

That's terrible. I'm very sorry for the families loss. Music is extrememly influential but it's only partly to blame. She was probably hanging around a bunch of kids who told her it was cool to cut yourself and kill yourself and a whole bunch of crap.
It's really sad. I just wish people could see. Jesus will help you guys. He loves us and wants to show us that.

(Please don't hate on me.)

[cwheel3915]

lets do an exercise.. who has every heard a song so sad it brought tears to your eyes??? most of you i would imagine(its okay metal heads you can admit you cried)

okay now how many of you have every heard a song that made you just feel great pumped up and ready to go.. i have....

if music can do that it cant make you feel depressed? unless you already were really???

well ive got sad , from songs were i was not sad before i listened to them

[xScarfx]

I feel for the family,
but i hate when people blame music for these things. MCR is not even an emo band. This is the same old story with columbine shootings and marilyn manson, and the subliminal messages in Judas Priest.

And emo initiation? most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. Emo is not a cult... emo is a type of music..

[metalcameron89]

R.I.P hannah.....this is a very sad thing to see happening.i do not blame the parents that would be stupid.as much as i want to im not blamming mcr.teenagers at that age are so very easily influenced by in music.you hear what you want and you take it for what you want.

[Guitar}Zero]

It seems to me that the emo "scene" makes self-harm like cutting fashionable and masks the signs of those with real emotional problems, making it harder for them to be recognized as someone in need of professional help. Every couple years there's some outcry about an artist's music leading to teen suicide (Marilyn Manson and even Third Eye Blind with "Jumper" are notable) but blaming a whole genre? Damn that emo is some bad shiz. . .

[leper_affinity]

As lazy as I think it is for music to be blamed for episodes like this, I think in this case it seems like the music could have been an influence.

[Engel22]

this emo stuff has to end, i mean most people beilived (some years ago) that bands like metallica and others were the cause, but now the true cause is here. i do admit i am a HIM fan and i have no shame saying it, but even HIM doesnt sound as dark as the others do. its becoming a dark genre and bands need to lose the suicide is bliss crud before more kids die.

[brunohbarros]

cwheel3915 said:

lets do an exercise.. who has every heard a song so sad it brought tears to your eyes??? most of you i would imagine(its okay metal heads you can admit you cried)

okay now how many of you have every heard a song that made you just feel great pumped up and ready to go.. i have....

if music can do that it cant make you feel depressed? unless you already were really???

well ive got sad , from songs were i was not sad before i listened to them

I particularly agree with you and i think that the music has this strange power of change minds and emotions, but, someone can only and/or really comit suicide if isn't minded up with itself to dicernite the things all around.

[Philip1982]

Unfortunately teenagers are not emotionally developed enough to realise that songs are songs and emo is not a way of life, it's just a kind of weird genre of music.
They hear this stuff and think that's really connected to my life because they've split up with a boyfriend or girlfriend or their parents have told them off. It can be dangerous but only if they get in with the wrong people and may be slightly depressed anyway.
Whatever way you look at this, a 13 year old girl has killed herself and that is terrible and the parents will never get over it.

[STOJDub]

So wait,there not blaming Manson this time?


But seriously,unlees thers a MCR song somewhere that says"Hang youself bitch"then I don't really see how the **** they can keep blaming music,of any kind,for this.Pretty soon they'll be blaming country for bar fights and wife beating.

[MegaRon]

Unfortunate for the family, but music doesn't kill people. People that misinterpret music do.

[Nekrofagist]

thats a huge problem, emo is not a fashion statement, its a state of mind, i think its rediculous, being mad,happy,sad,content,depressed,joyful....ALL STATES OF EMO(tion) so we are all emo, unless your a damn robot

[fiftysteps]

I don't like emo, but it's hilarious to blame a genre of music for a parent's lack of observation on their children. It was metal in the 80's, now this. Music could be a sort of fuel, but never the main cause. The culprit is usually the first one to point the finger.

[leper_affinity]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

OK, they may not be emo, but please please PLEASE don't even suggest they are anything close to metal.

[brunohbarros]

I think that musics are written in way for expession and art.What really does not mean that they are right and you have to do what the songs say.

[martyr1130]

alexxero wrote:

My Chemical Romance is not EMO, it's freaking Metal god damnit, it was an Article here on UG about them saying that they are not emo and hate EMO, even their myspace page says METAL!!! stop saying they're emo ...

I play music like pantera, metallica and megadeth.

If i CALLED myself country, does that really make me country?

[_A.D.I.D.A.S._]

This retarded music industry is to blame. These big shot executives need to die. They are murdering kids who are blindly believing in the emo scene.

Emo, isn't funny anymore. It needs to die, and I'm not kidding. I don't mind people expressing their feelings or relating to it and whatnot in music. Do whatever you want. But to make it a scene and having people follow it because it's "popular" is just plain wrong. I don't consider bands who are labeled emo, emo. Emo is a scene that people think they want to belong in. So the music ind makes emo into a type of music and everyone who wants to fit in, listens to it. Whats worse, is that emo is a scene that "promotes" suicide.


Sorry, just a rant. I hope you understand.

checked.

everyone from this point on that mocks this girls death or bashes emo music will be banned.

[metallo]

my chemical Romance ARE emo!

[brunohbarros]

I like some melancholyc songs.There are some ones that that really thrills me, but I know that I don't have to
out a bullet thru the middle of my eyes...

[brunohbarros]

put bullet thru the middle of my eyes...

[metallo]

hey, look this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emo_artists!

[PastaOfMuppets]

Don't blame the music, blame her stupid social group and the way they feel they have to conform to a trend.
This is just an extreme version of what every trend following teenager does, "emo" or not.
Still, its sad for anyone to die in this way, especially at such a young age so rest in peace Hannah.

Oh, and MCR and any other bands or the style that has accompanied them is not emo in the slightest. Its all just a label that has been stupidly attached to the music by the industry and it has since attracted these stupid stereotypes and negative connotations.
Fuck the bandwagons, both the followers of this trend and all the haters (such as the many who have populated this comments section) who are just as bad.

[PastaOfMuppets]

metallo wrote:

hey, look this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_emo_artists!

F unny how only about 3 of those bands could actually be classed as emo.

[surya22]

First of all, R.I.P.
This is like Ozzy and Judas Priest all over again

[rockergurl09]

Sounds a lot more like her friend's doing than the emo. Some time long ago, I used to listen to emo, but I didn't think like that at all. Yeah, her friends are really messed up.

[brunohbarros]

Guess if everyones started to live like they favorite songs say in its lyrics.The world would be a chaos, many men crying and dying for something shitty, someones wolud be laughing as childs drunk...Fans of black metal would do black metal things, fans of melodic metal would try to kill some drangons e talk to fairies, it would be eerie and absurd!

[Joe4/4/1992]

what i dont get is that of all the millions and millions of other possible reasons for this young girls suicide, a music genre is blamed
wtf is the point?

[llama_guitarist]

strat0blaster wrote:

What kind of parents raise their child so poorly that at 13 she thinks so little of the value of life?

It's not emo's fault, it's the fault of two awful parens who failed to instil any value in their child. I feel sorry for the girl, but blaming this on a genre of music is like blaming McDonalds for obese people or Cigarette companies for lung issues in smokers - nobody held these people at gunpoint and forced them to eat shitty food, smoke daily, or kill themselves.

Maybe instead of lambasting music, they should learn from their mistakes and speak out to other parents about raising their children better than to be so easily swayed to such extremes by lyrics in a song.

I hate emo as much as the next guy, but this is ridiculous.

win.

[AngerIsAGift06]

****ing media creating morale panics like it does with everything