Metalcore Music. Part 1 - The Beginning

Introduction

Hardcore and metal have gotten together to create another useless subgenre label, metalcore. With metal's brighter side and hardcore's darkest, metalcore combines pretty much singing, screaming, heavy riffs and breakdowns into a melodic song. Metal for the emos if you want. I'm not bashing metalcore, in fact I love it (it's just that I think all these subgenres are pretty stupid) since everyone says that most of the bands I like were metalcore. As I Lay Dying, Killswitch Engaged, Trivium, In Flames, Himsa, Norma Jean, Shadows Fall, I all consider them pretty much metalcore (and trust me I don't care if you post saying what is metalcore and what isn't, to me these bands are and I don't what to mix my head with all these bands and subgenres).

The Sound

It's hard to sound good playing metalcore genre music when you have a small 15 watts that can get hardly any distortion. So your best bet is to buy a good distortion pedal, or even a new amp (if you have the money and think you deserve it). In my case I have bought a guitar port and can get the perfect tone. So whatever situation your in, be sure to have a lot of gain! In my case I like to have the bass and treble up to max.

If you have guitarport here are some good settings for a modern metalcore sound.

Amp model : Line 6 Insane
Cab model : 4x10 2001 Line 6
Drive - 10; Bass - 10; Middle - 7; Treble - 10; Presence - 9 
Stomp     : Effect Model - Screamer; Drive - 100%; Gain - 100%; Tone - 100%
Gate      : Threshold - -8dB; Decay - 43%
Compressor: Threshold - 0dB; Gain - 11dB
EQ        : GAIN (top to bottom)  5.4  3.4  8.6  3.2
EQ        : FREQ (top to bottom)  200  440  8.9k  1.6k

Tuning

Hardly any band use standard tuning in this kind of music. You want a heavy feel, thats why you have to tune down. My personal favorite is (from low to high) C G C F A D. But you may prefer D G C F A D or D A D G B E or even B F# B E G# C#. There are a lot of tunings you can use (to write your own metalcore songs, but if your doing a cover I suggest you just tune down exactly like the song suggest, so you get the closest as possible to the wanted sound). Just remember to tune down, it sounds better that way.

The Basics

Ok so, I'm supposing you know how to hammer-on, pull-off, palm mute, and all the other basics. So I'm not going to explain them all like the other lessons do. But I will put some example riffs that include them.

Riff 1:
(a small and simple riff I made that uses palm mute and pull-offs).

                         p                          p
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|-----3-2------3-2------3^2------5-3------5-3------5^3--|
|-----0-0------0-0---------------0-0------0-0-----------|
|-0-0------0-0------0-0------0-0------0-0------0-0------|
pm. .      . .      . .      . .      . .      . .
                         p                      
|-------------------------------------------------------|
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|-----3-2------3-2------3^2-----------------------------|
|-----0-0------0-0---------------8--------7777-10101010-|
|-0-0------0-0------0-0------0-0-(^let ring)------------|
pm. .      . .      . .      . .

Riff 2:
(I got the idea of this riff in a lesson I read. It's not really metalcore, but it's fun, different riff that can be used to warm up your hammer-on technique).

   h    h    h   h   h    h   h   h   h   h   h   h   h   h   h   h
|-0^12-0^11-0^9-0^7--------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------0^10-0^9-0^7-0^5---------------------------------|
|------------------------------------0^9-0^7-0^5-0^4-----------------|
|----------------------------------------------------0^7-0^5-0^4-0^5-|
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|
|--------------------------------------------------------------------|

Intro.
I think the intro riff is very important, it gives the listener an idea of the song so you can decide whether you will listen to it or not.

Some cool intros I like are and that you should learn: "94 Hours" (As I Lay Dying), "Washing Me Away In The Tides" (Trivium), "Downfall" (Children Of Bodom), "The Crimson" (Atreyu), "Suffucating Under Words Of Sorrow" (Bullet For My Valentine), "Wolfchild" (Himsa), "Scream" (In Flames), "Rose Of Sharyn" (Killswitch Engaged), "This Is My Own" (Shadows Fall), and a lot more. Here are a few intro riffs you can practise.

Riff 1 - the intro riff to "Bed Of Razors" by Children Of Bodom.
You may think it looks hard at first, because you need to learn all these notes by heart and play them as fast as Alexi Laiho. But the trick is to learn it in parts. So seperate the riff in 4 parts, then take your time and go part by part. Memorize the notes and play them slowly. Then when your comftorable start playing it faster.

|------------------------------------------------10-8------------|
|-12-8---------8-11-8---------8-12-8----8-10-12------12-10-8-----|
|------11-9-11--------11-9-11---------11----------------------11-|
|----------------------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------------------------|

Riff 2 - the intro riff to "Elegy" by As I Lay Dying.
I love this riff, I think it sound very good when you know it right and with a lot of distortion. It maybe challenging at first, but again cut it into parts to make your life easier.

       p  p  p          p   p  p            h p
|---------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------0---------------8/10-878-7^8^7----------|
|----8^7-10^8^0---0----8^7-10^8^0----------------8/10-878-|
|-00------------0-0--0------------------------------------|
pm..            .    .

      p    p p          p    p p
|------------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------0---------------------7-8----7---10-8-7----------|
|----8^7-10^8^0---0----8^7-10^8^0---5-8-----10---8--------8-10-7-8-|
|-00------------0-0--0---------------------------------------------|
pm..            .    .              . . . . .  . . .  . . . .  . .

Verse.
In most of metalcore songs the verse is very heavy and involves screaming. Again I tabbed examples of verse riffs.

Riff 1 - this is the verse riff to the song "Collision" by As I Lay Dying.

                    h p   p
|------------------------------------------------------------||
|------------------------------------------------------------||
|------------------------------------------------------------||
|------------------7^8^7-------------------------------------||
|-------8-7-5------------8^7-------8-7-5---8-8-8----10-10-10-||
|-0-0-0-------0-00-----------0-0-0---------8-8-8----10-10-10-||
pm. . .       . ..           . . .

Riff 2 - this is the verse riff to the song "This Years Most Open Heartbreak" by Funeral For A Friend. I like this verse riff alot, and it sounds very good.

   p
|-------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------|
|-1^0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-0-0-2-2-0-0-2-2-0-0-----3---3h5-----|
|-1^0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-0-0-2-2-0-0-2-2-0-0-1h3---3-----3h5-|
|-1^0-0-0-1-0-1-0-0-0-0-2-2-0-0-2-2-0-0-----------------|
pm    . .   .   . . . .     . .     . .

Chorus.
Personally I like it when they sing during the chorus becauses it differs from the chorus alot more. Most guitarists during a chorus play some power chords, sometimes with another small riff.

Riff - this is the chorus riff to Atreyu's "Ain't Love Grand.
Riff 1 is played during the chorus along with some power chords (riff 2). Riff 2 is the power chord progression.

	 h                      h
|----------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------|
|----9-9^10-9-9-12-10-9-----9-9^10-9-9-10-9----|
|-0-0-0----0-0-----------0-0-0----0-0-------12-|
|----------------------------------------------|
|----------------------------------------------|

|-------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------|
|-------------------5-5-5-5--3-3-3-3--|
|-0-0-0-0--3-3-3-3--5-5-5-5--3-3-3-3--|
|-0-0-0-0--3-3-3-3--3-3-3-3--1-1-1-1--|
|-0-0-0-0--3-3-3-3--------------------|

Breakdown.
Breakdowns are pretty much like an interlude but useally is muted power chords. They can be a lot of fun, and add more depth to a song. They give you a chance to stop screaming and take your breath. Well actually theyre alot more than that.

Riff 1 - breakdown riff of the song called "Forever" by As I Lay Dying.

|----------------------------|
|----------------------------|
|----------------------------|
|---------------333222000222-|
|-888777555888?-111111111111-|
|-000000000000---------------|

Riff 2 - breakdown riff in "Enlightened By The Cold" by Shadows Fall.

|-----------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------|
|------------3---------5-------------2-----3--2-|
|-0--0--0--5---5-----3---3--0-0-0------3---1--0-|
|-0--0--0---------0---------0-0-0--3------------|

Solo.
Great old solo. What would we do without him.

Solo - to the song "Dying In Your Arms" from Trivium.

|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
|-17-17-17\14-16-16-16\12/14-14-14-9-7-let ring-------------7-9-9-|
|------------------------------------------------9---9h10p9-------|
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------------------------|
                                                            
|---------12-10----------------15-13-12-----------------------------------|
|----13---------------15---------------15h17p15----------10-8-10-12-13-15-|
|------14-----------------16----------------------------------------------|
|-14----------------------------------------------17~---------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|

|-12----------12----12-----------------12-------12-----10---------10--------|
|----13----13----13-----------------13----13----13--------------12----12--12|
|-------14-----------------------------14----------14--------------12-------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|
|---------------------------------------------------------------------------|

|--------------------10-------10----8----------8----8-------|
|-----------------12----12----12------------10----10---10---|
|--------------------12----------12------------10-----------|
|-----------------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------------------|
|-----------------------------------------------------------|

|----------8-------8-------13-12-10---12-10------10-----------------------|
|-10----10---10---------------------13------13-12---13-12-10-13-12-10-----|
|----10---------10----------------------------------------------------12--|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------------|
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Conclusion

Keep practising and continue listening to metalcore! Hope my example helped and that I made you a somewhat better player.

Comments

[Neon Knight]

Since when is COB metalcore?

[gdm09]

i like it, 2nd!

[Donkey Fly]

Could of used a better solo.....and FFAF metalcore?

[Schonas]

In Flames plays melodic death metal, or gothenburg metal, not Metalcore

[Conkyworm]

Pretty good lesson, if metalcore is your thing. Try putting the time signatures with your tabs, though.

[ImBarkerRarrrrr]

pretty nice other than a few little things

[Ankou]

Schonas wrote:

In Flames plays melodic death metal, or gothenburg metal, not Metalcore

Aye that's true, but also consider that metalcore has ripped off At The Gates' "Slaughter of the Soul" album to such an extent that people I know are calling them metalcore (obviously without hearing such albums as "With Fear I Kiss The Burning Darkness" or "The Red in the Sky is Ours"). I think the biggest irony in this genre is that not a lot of bands appear to realise that if it weren't for ATG, metalcore probably wouldn't exist.

/end rant.

[Nor'Easterbass]

Neon Knight wrote:

Since when is COB metalcore?

Ditto. Also, Shadows Fall is thrash. I know u sed not to bother with such commments, but BS ur gonna label Shad the same as Killswitch. (i love both alot however). You forgot All That Remains, a balance of the most obvious but skillful metalcore elements plus some metal with the solos. Good lesson tho. 7 1/2. so 8.

[fender f**kwit]

Ankou wrote:

Schonas wrote:

In Flames plays melodic death metal, or gothenburg metal, not Metalcore

Aye that's true, but also consider that metalcore has ripped off At The Gates' "Slaughter of the Soul" album to such an extent that people I know are calling them metalcore (obviously without hearing such albums as "With Fear I Kiss The Burning Darkness" or "The Red in the Sky is Ours". I think the biggest irony in this genre is that not a lot of bands appear to realise that if it weren't for ATG, metalcore probably wouldn't exist.

/end rant.

jesus christ, so many ****ing ridiculous metal subgenres.

[saetia16]

**** yo trivium, as i lay dying, and shadows fall. all of whom are the shittest examples of metalcore that can possibly be given. yeah, you'll get by most people on this site seeing as most people on this site are complete dumbasses. you should check out botch, converge, and zao to get a feel of the original founders. im not bashing your review dude, im just trying to teach what metalcore evolved from. so many of these bands you named are just rip offs of the original founders.

[dayz\m/]

cheers man thats helped me

[pansultarca]

almost all the bands today were created from differnt some one elses sound or rythme soo quit calling them "rip offs" and enjoy the music please

[pansultarca]

o and nice little lesson

[saetia16]

pansultarca wrote:

almost all the bands today were created from differnt some one elses sound or rythme soo quit calling them "rip offs" and enjoy the music please

i dont remeber talking to you. you obviously dont understand what im saying.

[pansultarca]

mabye my comment wasn't directed towards u

[saetia16]

pansultarca wrote:

mabye my comment wasn't directed towards u

damn straight, it better not be. jk

[grey03mach1]

Good Lesson.

[blkbassplyr]

dudes dont fret man its like this for those who dont understand everyone likes rice and beans right .....its just you take someting from this band and something from that band and something from here from there and you play it till you can put it together and make youre own....it's like kill them all and let god sort them out...i mean you play the style or way youre used to playing and get known.....it's just these company's wanting to say we found this new metal it's called "metal whatever" and its the next best thing its all promo,publicity bullshit.to try and sell to the newbees not the oldschoolers that know metal by other names ...

[neon1987]

3 words "SIX FEET UNDER"

[imanubguitarist]

the dying in your arms solo is totally off...
the guitar pro versions has the right 1

Checked.

[Silvertone_man1]

Dude this is really cool but is there any way u can give me a bass part for all of this i would really like to learn the style on bass since i am a bass player. email me ant [e-mail] with details id really apreciate it.

[simmons100]

good

[misanthropy]

4 Words. "SIX FEET UNDER SUCKS"

[ror]

saetia16 wrote:

**** yo trivium, as i lay dying, and shadows fall. all of whom are the shittest examples of metalcore that can possibly be given. yeah, you'll get by most people on this site seeing as most people on this site are complete dumbasses. you should check out botch, converge, and zao to get a feel of the original founders. im not bashing your review dude, im just trying to teach what metalcore evolved from. so many of these bands you named are just rip offs of the original founders.

you are a noob. obviously.

[TheNthDimension]

Nor'Easterbass wrote:
Shadows Fall is thrash.

Not really, IMO

[SpardaZero]

cob is powermetal and In Flames is death metal.

[Horvat]

Shadows Fall is not thrash.
Yes, they take much influence from thrash, but are still metalcore I am afraid.
And In Flames' older stuff is melodic death metal, while their newer stuff is metalcore/nu-metal.

[TheCrimson26]

As I Lay Dying = The Definition of Metalcore

While i do belive he is wrong about Shadows Fall and he may have the genre mixed up a little bit (because not all metalcore bands sing, it's really all about the guitar playing) As I Lay Dying is the new standard for Metalcore wither they like it or not.

[MetallicaNRoses]

no A7X? everyone is all pissed off that they're metalcore and not metal (like it really ****ing matters) and they aren't even mentioned in a metalcore column?

[IfDaysEnd]

ror wrote:

saetia16 wrote:

**** yo trivium, as i lay dying, and shadows fall. all of whom are the shittest examples of metalcore that can possibly be given. yeah, you'll get by most people on this site seeing as most people on this site are complete dumbasses. you should check out botch, converge, and zao to get a feel of the original founders. im not bashing your review dude, im just trying to teach what metalcore evolved from. so many of these bands you named are just rip offs of the original founders.


you are a noob. obviously.

well Zao first played the original metalcore, as Bloodjinn or Shai Hulud...

[Skathe_665]

saetia16 wrote:

**** yo trivium, as i lay dying, and shadows fall. all of whom are the shittest examples of metalcore that can possibly be given. yeah, you'll get by most people on this site seeing as most people on this site are complete dumbasses. you should check out botch, converge, and zao to get a feel of the original founders. im not bashing your review dude, im just trying to teach what metalcore evolved from. so many of these bands you named are just rip offs of the original founders.

Dude, Zao sucks. I saw them live with Trivium, In Flames, and Devildriver. The singer is one of the most emo acting idiots to ever grace the shared stage of musical geniouses.

[TheCrimson26]

Omg ok im sick of hearing this..A7X is NOT metal or any kind of metal. You can't compare then to As I Lay Dying, Norma Jean, Job For A Cowboy, Horse the Band, In Flames, Darkest Hour, August Burns Red, The Devil Wears Prada, or even It Dies Today (who is a sucky metalcore band)A7X isn't even heavy metal, it's just Hard Rock....end of story A7X doesn't even sound close to any of the bands i listed which means they aren't in the same catagory...so get over A7X fans are the ones who listen to stuff like Korn and Slipknot....just give it up u listen to ****y music

[SLIP(SIC)KNOT]

saetia16 wrote:

**** yo trivium, as i lay dying, and shadows fall. all of whom are the shittest examples of metalcore that can possibly be given. yeah, you'll get by most people on this site seeing as most people on this site are complete dumbasses. you should check out botch, converge, and zao to get a feel of the original founders. im not bashing your review dude, im just trying to teach what metalcore evolved from. so many of these bands you named are just rip offs of the original founders.

since when is zao an original founder of metalcore? they are relatively new!! and why are there so many friggin genres?? i would probably put lamb of god in the metalcore group... nah.. maybe just hardcore. they are a great example of breakdowns. like the song "the subtle arts of murder and persuasion." a lot better than the example of "forever"... breakdowns are fast not slow like that...

[rickysaid]

good lessons

[rickysaid]

yeah its enavitable people will argue the subgenre thing
but whenever people ask me what kind off music do I play just say agressive

[Deathovdishonor]

since when is zao an original founder of metalcore? they are relatively new!! and why are there so many friggin genres?? i would probably put lamb of god in the metalcore group... nah.. maybe just hardcore. they are a great example of breakdowns. like the song "the subtle arts of murder and persuasion." a lot better than the example of "forever"... breakdowns are fast not slow like that...

not always alot of the more brutal bands in my area play slow heavy ass breakdowns, and by the way great lesson man keep it up!

[Deathovdishonor]

neon1987 wrote:
3 words "SIX FEET UNDER"

Six feet under is death metal not Metalcore

[Deathovdishonor]

but as far as im concerned metal is metal

[tom_sawyer]

the comments about genre are bullshit! you're just trying to defend your favourite band, not the metalcore! just like the author said, subgenres are stupid. day by day, new subgenre can be form. it just falls into its origin, and that's METAL.
but i'd like to say, bullet for my valentine rules 'em all! haha

[mcw00t]

tuning on the tabs?

[aryanstunner]

Recently i went to a between the buried and me/ darkest hour gig which was awsome (btbam deserve a place in that list btw) neway the next week i saw bfmv as i lay dying and gallows and i saw some emo kids this week... they are all awsome. i mean yeah most of these stuff are jus emo gone wild but who cares?! its all about being rock and metal and havin a good time listenin to the music. i used to make fun of indie ppl now im jus thinkin that ok **** it if i dont like their music im jus gonna keep it to myself. i think its time not to give a shit about genres and music we dont like and stick to the music that we DO like and headbang! Rock ON \m/

neway this is a good lesson! keep up the good work!

[punkmanhunter]

i agree with that dude a bit but indie sucks i mean if u giv different types of music a chance it can rock but if u dont like it u can say so.....and cheer up emo kids

[Noscalingforyou]

nice. ive been playing for 6 months, and im finally starting to get the hang on metalcore basics, this makes it even better. for a song that would help you learn these kind of things, check out "Our Sick Story Thus Far" by Atreyu. (I still cant figure out the solo at all :grr

[Noscalingforyou]

nice. ive been playing for 6 months, and im finally starting to get the hang on metalcore basics, this makes it even better. for a song that would help you learn these kind of things, check out "Our Sick Story Thus Far" by Atreyu. I still cant figure out the solo at all, tho

[jon bon 12]

God why do we need to have so many subgenres just call it metal

[conorstuff]

Nice. You should have called it "modern metal lesson" though, cos that gets all those bands in there and gets rid of all the debate about sub-genres.
And i dont think your dying in your arms tab is accurate.

[flakjacket]

The lesson was alright. Could have used more in depth exlanations on which scales or modes to use in this style of music. I dont agree with the poster about about A7X though, its definetly not hard rock, as their 1st and 2nd album are heavier than metalcore tends to be, and closer to metal.

[STABxYOU]

ror wrote:

saetia16 wrote:

**** yo trivium, as i lay dying, and shadows fall. all of whom are the shittest examples of metalcore that can possibly be given. yeah, you'll get by most people on this site seeing as most people on this site are complete dumbasses. you should check out botch, converge, and zao to get a feel of the original founders. im not bashing your review dude, im just trying to teach what metalcore evolved from. so many of these bands you named are just rip offs of the original founders.

you are a noob. obviously.

He's right. As I Lay Dying and Shadows Fall are lame mallcore bands.

Converge FTW!

[6sic6_blank]

Dude, if it's got screaming, heavy guitar riffs, possible solo. It's metal.

[AsILayhXc]

I'm assuming you guys can't read. He said not to comment about what band is what genre. It's my feeling that you can call 'em whatever you want, and someone will always call it different.

Anyways, good article. I like to play As I Lay Dying for the sick riffs that they come up with. As Blood Runs Black is fun too.

[BeanApoc]

SpardaZero wrote:

cob is powermetal and In Flames is death metal.

Cob is melodeath actually.

[AAMinistry]

I think its funny (and a little retarded) that all these little elitist losers think the best way to contribute is to rip apart someone's work, oh and crap on bands because they don't like them. Real mature. And for the record Trivium do not fall into Saetia16's description "shittest examples of metalcore that can possibly be given." Behave yourself will you? Plus I definitely recall the author saying they don't like subgenres of metal anyway. Metal is metal and yes there are many flavours but it's all still metal of some form.

To xASxIxLAYx nice lesson and keep it up. People like me who are not ass kicking shred masters and harmony wizards need this sort of guidance! This certainly helped me out.

[AAMinistry]

Cob is melodeath actually.

Now we're getting silly. It's Metal ffs!

"I'm going to start a new subgenre SuicideDeathThrashPowerMe
tal who's with me?!"

[mrsa1]

good lesson but it would be nice to know what tuning the tabs are in

[tony d]

by the way the last six notes on the dying inyour arms solo are wrong i have the music sheet so don't argue. and COB are melodeath.

AAMinistry :
Now we're getting silly. It's Metal ffs!
"I'm going to start a new subgenre SuicideDeathThrashPowerMe

tal who's with me?!"

now thats silly.
good lesson by the way.

[mattvh93]

Gates is a great guitarist but A7X suk

[anti-christian]

metalcore and hardcore suck

[Syrup_123]

lets just keep metal metal and not have so many friggin different subgenres that most bands could fall into 3 or 4 different categories!!

[powerplayer25]

i agree with the dude that talked about A7X..whats up with them not being on here..syn gates rocks ASS!!!

[glen-07]

lets just keep metal metal and not have so many friggin different subgenres that most bands could fall into 3 or 4 different categories!!

i couldnt agree more at the end of the day its all metal so whats the point in arguing over it.

[fourstriings]

yes, As I Lay Dying was the source of metal-core, and A7X is NOT METAL-CORE!!

goodbye.

[premstagg]

Nice lesson. Too many examples though not much in the way of how to form metalcore riffs.

And everyone pretty much ignored you and started discussing what they call Metalcore
That's what the forum is there for :P

8.

[tackersonMSU12]

rickysaid wrote:

yeah its enavitable people will argue the subgenre thing
but whenever people ask me what kind off music do I play just say agressive

ur a f***** genious! i gotta use that.

[ugmung]

saetia16 wrote:

**** yo trivium, as i lay dying, and shadows fall. all of whom are the shittest examples of metalcore that can possibly be given. yeah, you'll get by most people on this site seeing as most people on this site are complete dumbasses. you should check out botch, converge, and zao to get a feel of the original founders. im not bashing your review dude, im just trying to teach what metalcore evolved from. so many of these bands you named are just rip offs of the original founders.

your an idiot
ive heard converge many times not so much the other band you mentioned
converge is like death metal
not metalcore
as i lay dying is a perfect example of modern metalcore

[autumn-offering]

hmm metalcore.. i like it but the breakdowns are crucial nd yours didnt include what tuning they were supposed to be!! id recomend machine head imperium as a nice simple breakdown to put up here, i could bitch about the genres thing but im not gunna well done.

[nickopotamus]

this is a good lesson, thanks to xASxIxLAYx for the guidance. i could go on all day about how i dont agree with some of the comments on this lesson, but to be honest, what is the point.

as AAMinistry said "metal is metal" there are subgenres yes, but ffs, its metal at the end of the day. everyone has their own preferences. for example i love tuning to CGCFAD, but i know people who could never in a millions years play that cos they think its shit. thats up to them

come on people

let the metal do the talking yea???

cheers for this lesson again

x

[demon-of-apathy]

Killswitch "ENGAGE" lol
even though I don't give a shit because to me its just metal some metal is better than other thats all there is to it

something that really pisses me off is hardcore dancing
its not hardcore its just retarded!!!

liked the lesson though nonetheless

[Masonpwiley]

Since when was CoB or In Flames metalcore?

[Haunted_Devil]

For the Atreyu - Ain't Love Grand tab, I found that not playing the open notes in the first riff is a good way to get the rhythm and feel of the song before adding the open notes in afterwards when you a feel a bit more comfortable.

[pyrojt07]

"I'm going to start a new subgenre SuicideDeathThrashPowerMe
tal who's with me?!"

Yeah nothing like a mixture of teenage drama

[AngelsFallFirst]

Excuse me...In Flames? Metalcore? Uh uh, no way.

[Zap on venus]

"I'm going to start a new subgenre SuicideDeathThrashPowerMe
tal who's with me?!"[/quote] dude thats funny, because you just said metal is metal that was mad face...it means im mad

[Morik]

I sometimes get tired when I come on UG and all I hear is what band is what genre. Just go stroll around the forums, you will see many instances of people correcting others due to "wrong genre". Lets see, just on this thread, how many times this happens.

AngelsFallFirst :
Excuse me...In Flames? Metalcore? Uh uh, no way.

SpardaZero :
cob is powermetal and In Flames is death metal.

Horvat :
Shadows Fall is not thrash.

Neon Knight :
Since when is COB metalcore?

In the forums we see this same thing, as if the forums were made for genre-freaks.

IMO there should be pop, rock, hard rock, and metal, and thats it. Sub-genres are ruining UG.

[jacky zee]

great lesson! and why the hell do people have to disagree with the bands you think are metalcore, u sed yourself tht it's just ur opinion

[mr synyster g]

Okay, TOO MANY F**king subgenres!
METAL IS METAL DAMMIT






and it was a pretty good lesson, 8/10

[--ATREYUROCK--]

Awesome lesson

And all these subgenres ARE really, really stupid

Just listen to the music, because it rocks!!

[dranz1212]

Norma jean is not metal core. They are just hardcore.

[trippesp]

TheCrimson26 wrote:

Omg ok im sick of hearing this..A7X is NOT metal or any kind of metal. You can't compare then to As I Lay Dying, Norma Jean, Job For A Cowboy, Horse the Band, In Flames, Darkest Hour, August Burns Red, The Devil Wears Prada, or even It Dies Today (who is a sucky metalcore band)A7X isn't even heavy metal, it's just Hard Rock....end of story A7X doesn't even sound close to any of the bands i listed which means they aren't in the same catagory...so get over A7X fans are the ones who listen to stuff like Korn and Slipknot....just give it up u listen to ****y music

you obviously dont know good music

[xplosivrequiem]

The lesson was great, I liked the "Elegy" riff, it's pretty awesome!!! Thanks a lot, I'll practise that once I'll be done with resting my wrist.

[ibanezfreak301]

all ur tabs were pretty much wrong (especially the COB one) did u tab them urself?

[isbutterbeanok]

i think the best band w/ a good example of a breakdown would def. be as blood runs black...that stuff is sick

[epiphreak]

im gonna have lots of fun this afternoon looking through all the metal, metalcore, thrash metal, melodic death metal, A7X whateverthingy (you guys cant seem to decide what genre they are) and skipping the lesson, just reading the comments. this is hilarious.
ive been playing guitar for like 2 years, been listening to (im not gonna say a genre in fear of getting raped) bands like atreyu A7X as i lay dying, children of bodom, bands like that for like 1/2 a year, and i call it really hardcore shit. cause it sums it up nice.
really good lesson, ill come back and try to learn the stuff after im done reading all the comments.:P

[christcore16]

Well if it wasn't for metalcore, metal wouldnt be that intresting. Now dont get me wrong i think its kinda lame to label such genres together, but you gotta admit the names r pretty cool. I mean melodic death metal, deathcore, Christcore, mathcore, thrashcore, they even got some stupid cores like ''AVERAGECORE'' what the krud is averagecore????!!!!! But all in all, anything (except black metal or anything playing black metal) that has a core on the end of it is cool with me.

[christcore16]

did u know that as i lay dying is christcore, so is; the devil wears prada,underoath,norma jean. And alot others CRHISTCORE LIVES!!!!!