Metalcore And Hardcore Music

This lesson is to help all of you metalcore/hardcore music lovers who want to get a cored band started but don't quite understand the logic behind the music style (please note this is only to help you get ideas).

1. The palm mute rythm.
All metalcore bands have a "breakdown" or just a riff that is palm mute rhythms. An example is from Avenged Sevenfold's Art Of Subconsious Illusion:

|------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|------------------------------------------------------------|
|--3-2-------------------------------------------------------|
|--5-4-5-7-5-4-2-4-5-4-5-7-5--|--5-4-5-7-5-4-2-4-5-4-5--1-3--|
|--5-4-5-7-5-4-2-4-5-4-5-7-5--|--5-4-5-7-5-4-2-4-5-4-5--1-3--|
pm . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

Example 2 is Atreyu's Living Each Day Like Your Already Dead:

D|------------------------------------------------|
A|------------------------------------------------|
F|-------------------------------------------5/7--|
C|--000-000-000-000-000--6P5-3333-------0---------|
G|--000-000-000-000-000--6P5-3333---3/5-0---------|
C|--000-000-000-000-000--6P5-3333-------0---------|
pm ... ... ... ... ... . . .... . . . . .

It's kinda hard to explain but you have to think out side of the box. Go for long rhythms that spread across the fretboard.

2. Hammer ons/pinch harmonics.
In addition to the palm mutes, you can add in hammer ons or pinch harmonics to give your riff a destinctive edge. An example is from Bleeding Through's On Wings Of Lead (in case you don't know these guys pich harmonic a lot).

*=Pinch
D|-------------------|-----------------------------------------|
A|-------------------|-----------------------------------------|
F|-------------------|-----------------------------------------|
C|--8-0-------7-0----|-----------------------------------------|
G|-------------------|------------------------5-5-5-5-5-5-5-5--|
C|------0000-----0-0-|--8-8-8-8-8-8-8-8------------------------|

D|---------------------------------------------------|
A|---------------------------------------------------|
F|-----------------------------------------------5*--|
C|---------------------------------------------------|
G|-----------------------4-4-4-4-4-4-4-4-------------|
C|--7-7-7-7-7-7-7-7----------------------------------|

Example 1 for hammering is Avenged Sevenfold's Darkness Surrounding:

e|-----------------------------------|
B|-----------------------------------|
G|-----------------------------------|
D|--2-2--2h3p2-0-3---2-2--2h3p2-0-3--|
A|--2-2-------------------2-2--------|
D|--2-2-------------------2-2--------|
pm . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

See, hammering/pinch harmonics add extra little things to make riffs memorable and awesome sounding (and thats what you want your music to sound like).

3. Underlaying solos.
If your still reading this, my lesson must be semi-good (hurray) So, when your song has a solo (if it needs one) slow paced power chords really get the job done. Even single finger chords can sound good (and blues chords when played in the right time and position can sound great). An example is Atreyu's Lip Gloss And Black:

Rhythm guitar (All notes played 4x)
D|------------------------|
A|------------------------|
F|------------------------|
C|--0-0-8-8-10-10-10-10---| Play 4x
G|--0-0-8-8-10-10-10-10---|
C|--0-0-8-8-10-10-10-10---|
(is played under that cool solo)

example 2 Avenged Sevenfold's Eternal Rest
e|----------------------------------------------------------|
B|------:::-:-------------------:-:::-:---------------------|
G|--5---555-5-------------------5-555-5---::::::::::::::::--|
D|--5---555-5---1-3----3-1-3----5-555-5---1111333344443333--|
A|--3---333-3---1-3----3-1-3----3-333-3---1111333344443333--|
D|--------------1-3----3-1-3--------------1111333344443333--|

e|---------------------------------------------------------| 2x
B|------:::-:------------------:-:::-:---------------------|
G|--7---777-7------------------7-777-7---::::::::::::::::--|
D|--7---777-7----3-5---5-3-5---7-777-7---3333555566665555--|
A|--5---555-5----3-5---5-3-5---5-555-5---3333555566665555--|
D|---------------3-5---5-3-5-------------3333555566665555--|

(can't find any blues underchords but listen to a solo or something and try to blay some blues chords under it).

4. Soloing
Not much I can say here. I only know like 7 scales and 2 appreigios. Scrounge this site. I'm sure you can find some. All I can say is practice here. Running through scales and ripping apart scales and piecing them together can make a realy nice fast sound (which you probably already know), using scales and appreigios together along with a few random bends makes and solo sound good. All I can say is run through scales over and over until your gonna go crazy, then do them more. So that was was lesson. I know Oswald is gonna say some smart remark about it so blow me I hope you found it helpful.

Comments

[mmm]

pretty good...pretty good....you definitely should've added left behind by slipknot..a great warmp up and good hardcore song. nice lesson tho guy thanks

[battleofla]

Err, this is hardcore, not nu-metal.....if you want slipknot check out the terrible heavy metal style II article.

This is good, a few good riffs that point in the right direction, 4 stars.

[metallikatt]

kudos to you *clap clap* you should've had some lamb of god in there but i guess you got your lesson done so well done 4 stars

[Gropus]

Nice man good sum up I would add maybe a drop d whic hmaybe most bands use and if not tha tdowntuning.. the best I found was everything on c#

Hmmm it'd be better if you'd included better examples.

[HXC_Slamming]

uh....i made this lesson in about 30 minutes.....sorry if its crap. just listen to all sorts of heavy music to get an idea.

[newfie*dude]

yea nice save buddy lol
but yes it is really convincing hahhaa

[Bustedstuff880]

do you only know two bands?

[ScareCrowMan]

This was a horrible "lesson". And FYI adding "random bends" to a solo is a stupid and very very bad idea. Of course you probably aren't aware that bends raise the pitch of a note, so "random bending" will more than likely wreck your solo by making you go out of key. Here's an idea, don't write a lesson if you don't know what you're doing, or if you're a moron, or both.

Also, you make it sound as if just running through scales for a solo will make a solo. This is also not true, nor is it a good idea. Posting some tabs and giving a half-assed run-down on them does not make a good lesson.

[fjhgdsfgad]

I think it was a good lesson. And scarecrow, you really don't have to be so harsh. You can be critical without being rude, you know.

[isjoeythere]

When someone devotes the time and attention to submit their opinion and experience as a lesson into the public domain like this, we don't have a right to bash that. Stating one's opinion on a lesson is great, but why do you some of you guys have to dig deep and insult it? I've just been reading a lot of lessons and that was starting to piss me off.

On behalf of the lesson, I think it's a great one for beginners. For me personally, the examples aren't really important anyways, as I typically learn by theory, but I like the emphasis and encouragement to practice scales. Grueling practice is typically put off by new players, and this is good encouragement for that.

[M3talJ3ff]

nice lesson screw scarecrow I think he forgot ot take the dildo out of his ass... Keep em coming lessons help the person writing them as much as it helps the people reading them

[Keryan]

neat lesson man!
to scarecrow: you can bend as much as you like man!
if you only listen to the whole solo, if it sounds good take it, if not, try again. You should try to play something that sounds good, not something thats "good" according to some motherf***ing rules!

[below_par_god]

hey dude
cool articile thingy ,but metalcore is pretty crap its just another hopeless attempt by really bad metalheads to be supremly "original" and break away into their own little world,crap crap crap ,but ur lesson was ok i wudn't take ur advise on soloin dat sucked ass
peace out

[tightpantsXcore]

All metalcore bands have a "breakdown" or just a riff that is palm mute rhythms

That does not make it a breakdown.

I guess this article is ok... it doesn't have really all that much to do with metalcore or hardcore. Palm muting and hammer ons aren't the only things. But good try, it's good to have lot's of examples of songs.

[hopesfall420]

for breakdowns you should have cited some examples from Unearth, they have the heaviest, coolest sounding breakdowns (probbaly cuz they have drop b 7 strings)..and gropus...a7x is drop d....and i thought bleeding through was drop b also..not bad article though, but none of it was relevant to hardcore (real hardcore) which is usually fast, standard tuning and no breakdowns

[insanity101]

I think it's "OK". But Slipknot would hav a bigger impact in your lesson if u added it because of there style.

OVERALL, PRETTY GOOD

[Sirnogbert]

Am i the only 1 that noticed he spelt arpeggios wrong at the end? i dont know if i shud post this coz i might have skrewed it up too, but apart from the spelling good lesson

[RememberSRV]

well its a good thing that you didnt say anything on soloing because if ur talking about hardcore music...they dont solo

[NightFallsSoon]

Yes hardcore does solo. Black Flag is one of the greatest hardcore bands, they had solos. Poison Idea, great hardcore band, has solos, Fear, great hardcore band, has solos.

[thesmartguy50]

oh, and Megadeth solos rock, too. Pretty good lesson, man. However, pinch harmonics... is that the one where you tap your finger over a 7th, 12th, etc fret, or is that the one where you hit the string lightly with your thumb to get that sexy screaming sound? I've forgotten....

[bullet theory]

Good good

[guitarhero5t]

sweet. it helped me a little. although some of it i already know, or was common sense. but still good!!

[omgitscj]

No smartguy that is a tapped harmonic. A pinch harmonic i different, look it up in the site I KNOW it's here (I learned thwm from this site). Overall it was a good lesson so I give you 4 stars (if there was a 4 1/2 stars you would get that).

[Eskimo]

To all those metalcore haters up there: piss off and go get a boner over a GnR cd or whatever shite it is you listen to. And to whoever said slipknot should be included as an example: they are NOT, in any shape or form, metalcore.
As for the lesson - not too bad, some ok examples although I'm not sure if there actually is a breakdown in The Art Of Subconscious Illusion that goes like that. And besides, it wasn't a very good example of a breakdown - for more distinctive metalcore breakdowns try bands like Poison The Well or Unearth. Atreyu and Avenged Sevenfold, although good bands, aren't what I'd call proper metalcore. A bit more depth could have been gone into over the riffage, even though the palm muting/hammering descriptions weren't bad. As for solos: they aren't really very important in metalcore, but if you do want to put in a solo, metalcore solos are pretty much just metal solos, check trivium/all that remains as examples.

[me_myself_and_i]

well to start off, no one cares about your oppinion jdoe, music is art, and when it comes to taste its worthless to argue, second its stupid to say whether their are or arnt solo's in a style of music, you can solo in any style of music, the lesson was alright, you should have included dropped d tuning though since most metalcore bands use it

[)Eric(Draven]

Terrible. You mentioned two bands, two both extremely terrible and generic bands at that. Please, discover the scene, learn what it's all about, then start making lessons on it.

1/5 because there's no 0 option.

[FerretsAreFunky]

I have a question. Why did you put Nu Metal bands and nothing else in here? Also, where is the "hardcore"? You should have put a crossover band or two. Suicidal Tendencies or The Exploited!

[eat_a_boat_oar]

good lesson. blow me.
..sincerly,
..eat a boat oar

[DarkestPAIN]

Also, where is the "hardcore"?

Yeah most of your examples are all metalcore. I think you should maybe have included some hardcore bands in it if your going to call it metalcore/hardcore lesson. You could also add 3/4 time which i see as a very important part of fast hardcore.

[metal_man696]

nice job man you should have included the solo to lip gloss and black its cool and easy. 4 stars

[Punk_Dude2005]

Random bends? Just running up scales up and down?
No I think that will turn your solo into shit .. but otherwise it was ok I guess ..nice effort

[acdcband07]

how is this a lesson when the guy doesnt even say what a pinch harmonic is, and he tells you to use it. I know what it is, but no thanks to this article

[coolster]

That lesson was deliciouse! I give it a 6!

[xdespairfactor]

wut is metalcor!?

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eat_a_b
oat_oar wrote:
good lesson. blow me.
..sincerly,
..eat a boat oar

Both warned for spam.

[Serfius]

Listen to Remembering Never, the album 'Women and Children Die First'. They define the 'breakdown' throughout the entire album. Especially songs like 'The Grenades in Mouth Tragedy' and 'The Color of Blood and Money'. Poison the Well has a few good breakdown songs as well, such as 'Sticks and Stones Never Made Sense' and 'Nerdy'. The Bled even has a couple good ones. 'Red Wedding' notably. My favorite band for breakdowns however is Embrace the End. I'm not sure if they have an album, but if you google it you'll find some downloadable songs. 'Tempest, Tried, and Tortured' has the sickest two breakdowns ever in a song.

Hardcore isn't entirely about the breakdowns. In fact, many of the bands that support the genre don't even use them, but essentially it is the known trait of this brand of music.

On the guide: I didn't find it exceptionally useful, but then, I've been playing hardcore for quite a while already. The best advice I can give to any aspiring artist is to practice your rhythms. Everyone seems to neglect their strumming hand while working on their 'solos' and whatever. Make sure you can upstroke equally as well as downstroke. See that your hand lifts perfectly with every non-muted note (as most of them will be muted). Hardcore doesn't actually call for much 'soloing' however. It's almost purely rhythm guitar and drum driven.

A good breakdown would be known to consist of a very cybally sound when the rhythm guitar rests, and as it plays, the double bass is following, along with a bass guitar on the more screamy portions, to provide a dropping depth sound. Sometimes a lead guitar will accent without break in the background of a breakdown, sort of like a solo without being the only altering instrument.

Music is all math, but hardcore is about passion and drive. Once you know the notes, just be creative. Try to keep to 2-3 string chords. Full chords sound atrocious with distortion, and all good metal has crunch.

These are all just my opinions, but if you read them I'm sure you won't mind.

[drjimuk]

No-one here mentioned disschords! DISSCHORDS PEOPLE!

[breaknahabit]

is there a breakdown in BYOB? like when it goes "why do they always send the poor?" then theres a little thing going down a scale or something.... sorry ive been playing guitar for a week but if anyone knows.... which you all will of course

[connorguitarboy]

good lesson but b better if was all in standard tuning

[charlie26]

i have a washburne wI64 with duel humbuckers, does anyone know if ths is a good guitar for pinch harmonics? they are the original humbuckers that came with the guitar

[charlie26]

scales dont even sound cool. why is this?

[IWantAJackson]

good article execpt you didn include that most REAL hardcore bands use CGCFAD or C# G# C# F# A# D# tuning..


ps: atreyu's not harcore lol

[J Lock]

Iwantawhatever, no that is simply not true.
Shai Hulud?
Black Flag?
No they usually used standard.
This "lesson" is pretty bad.
Sorry.

[Seed]

Atreyu is not metalcore, it's screemo

[OneDarkFlameLAF]

Everyone needs to breakdown their own definition Of "Hardcore." While some "purists" would say bands like Black flag, Cro-Mags and Bad Brains are hardcore, others think of the "New York" or "Tough-Guy" Hardcore (Mad ball, Hatebreed, etc.) But there is a New Hardcore out there, people that are influenced by hardcore's ground-breaking impact on our sub-culture and bringing in "other" influences. Atreyu, Avenged sevenfold, and Bleeding Through have added a gothic aesthetic. Metalcore bands like Lamb of God, Killswitch Engaged, and Trivium are based around an "old-school metal" vibe. For anyone who wants to explore more into the new Hardcore check out ANYTHING on Trustkill records.
As for the Lesson, It wasn't very well thought out, and the author needs to explore the musical world surrounding some of his, obviously, favorite Bands. No theory, method, technique, or even tuning was included. It had horrible examples. The advice on playing and soloing should be disregarded buy EVERYONE who cares about their Craft, Hobby, or Occupation as a musician. This wasn't worth reading.
Scarecrow needs to check his God complex, and take the Dick out of his Ass, stick it in his mouth and SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Slipknot is the worst band ever, next to Donnie and Marie.

[Metal_Freak]

A7x kicks slipknots ass... just had to say that

[xdespairfactor]

.....are ypi retarted

[ChildOfBodom666]

I can give you a better hardXcore lesson right here, right now...

Go to Wal-Mart, go to the girls section, pick out a few pairs of pants that will fit like spandex. Next, cut a few holes in the knees, get some shirts of crappy bands, but 20 guitars, never use ANY of them... That, is how to be hardXcore... How do I become the regular old fashioned hardcore you ask? Kick any kid that's hXc in the face, and your quest will be complete.

[invisible_man]

TYPING IN ALL CAPS MAKES YOU SOUND LIKE A FUCKING RETARD.

BTW, that was one terrible lesson.

[splatterot]

hardcore isn't a fad dumbass, it started in the 80's. and as i lay dying isn't even close to being a hardcore band, but they do suck.

anyways, the lesson wasn't that great. i didn't find it helpful.

[wibhxc]

yeah i dont considered the bands you covered hardcore. yes metalcore but either way i dont like those bands. a hardcore band to me is terror or comeback kid and reallllly old school.....minor threat. i think its funny people are arguing on here hahahaha.

[wibhxc]

by the way im in a hardcore band and im starting a side project cause yeah hardcore isnt hard to play but damnit i have fun doin it i love seeing tons of people dance their asses off to us and we are just all alike and have each others back when some douche like you comes along tryin to start shit. arrrgh metalheads. dont get me wrong i like metal but go shovin dancers cause you think its stupid. Oh and by the way just because i play hardcore no i dont suck at guitar, i listen and play many different styles. my favorite band is the beatles.

[wibhxc]

yeah i dont considered the bands you covered hardcore. yes metalcore but either way i dont like those bands. a hardcore band to me is terror or comeback kid and reallllly old school.....minor threat. i think its funny people are arguing on here hahahaha.

[.: RFAA :.]

^^ your band is tight.. play chain in anaheim, CA

I

[bigbrowngrizzly]

what the **** man, hardcore this hardcore that, this lesson wasn't even a lesson so why was it posted in the lessons section.

[slashwyldepage]

what. the. feck.


way to not teach anyone anything.
and way to pick the bottom of the barrel as metalcore bands go.



get bent.

[Random dude]

wats with people and always insulting thoose who are just trying to help them learn guitar. If u dont want the advice then dont take. Someone else will.

[Random dude]

wats with people and always insulting people who are just trying to help them learn how to play stuff on the guitar . If u dont want their advice then dont take it . You dont have to tell them how they screwed up when most of you are not any better at writting articles.

[bruiseofsociety]

hardcore is a genre of music made for the guitarist not talented enough to play metal or even metalcore, and i hate using the term metalcore simply because it is hardcore with metal influences, not to mention take a glance at the scene surrounding hardcore music, i guess im just to cool for wearing womens pants, i guess the next new fad will be wearing bras and thongs.

[RockYourFace]

Hard core is for faggots

[ozturk417]

**** you

[ozturk417]

that **** you went to gay new wave metal

[\m/CoBhC\m/]

who ever thinks that A7x is even metal is queer. wtf is with this guy and A7x and atreyu examples? there are more in this world than them two shitty bands.... try bands like bodom and shit thats real metal.... "a gunshot to the head of trepidation" by trivium is a good example of a break down. a break down doesnt even have to have palm muting in it :| tight jeans are for queers anyway to be metal u have to have like hand ripped jeans so that they are shorts below the knees and a "lamb of god" t-shirt or something.and for the fag that said "have 20 guitars and never use them" while it is tru that they dont use them,its not the fault of the band.ie: metallica (i know they arent hardcore)has 300 and they never use them. its just that guitar companies send them to them for a tour, or because they want them to try a new model or something. the lesson was ok but like every body else a good solo isnt just scales and random bending... that sounds pretty ****in dumb. i tried it when i was a noob. make like a pulling/hammering pattern and try and play it in different keys (modifying it to suit the key) the go into a scale regression or something. any ways COBHC!!! \m/

[\m/CoBhC\m/]

i got to admit tho it was a good effort

[LamB_OF_goD]

metallikatt:
kudo
s to you *clap clap* you should've had some lamb of god in there but i guess you got your lesson done so well done 4 stars

i so agree

[i_am_metalhead]

\m/CoBhC\m/ wrote:

A7x and atryeu suck. ppl think they are so cool because they listen to them. its not the fault of the band that they have 20 guitars and never use them. metallica (i know they are not metal/hard-core)has like 300 and dont use them. its because companies send guitars to them for doing a tour or something or the want the band to try a new model. if u want to hear a good breakdown listne to "a gunshot to the head of trepidation" by trivium. the article basically had two bands on the examples... WTF!?!?!?! there are more bands in the world than those two peices of shit. A7x would be better if they didnt have a queer singer!! dont wear womens jeans get a pair of baggy jeans and hand rip them at the knees (my grandmother gave me a pair of $195 jeans and i did this to them... they were that preppy "abercrombie and fitch" company. they look a lot better now)any ways COBHC!! \m/

First... since when is Metallica not metal?? Have you been smoking something? Metallica helped invent the whole thrash metal scene - they pretty much led the Bay Area rockers in the early 80's.

Second, dont be dissing A7X and Atreyu. Though you may bot like their music, their guitarists are amazing.

Third (And this one goes to the person who posted this lesson), you should have mentioned some stuff about harmonized leads. Most metalcore/hardcore bands are incorporating a lot of harmonized leads in their music now (A7X, God Fobid, A Dozen Furies, Trivium, etc. - they all use a lot of harmonized stuff). But the post does give the beginner a good idea of where to start and what they need to work on to get to the top - great job!

*ANY SPAM POST AFTER THIS GETS WARNED.

[\m/CoBhC\m/]

no i didnt mean "metal" i love metallica i did a project on them in grade ten but any ways i meant "metalcore" should have been clearer

[LPIndin]

\m/CoBhC\m/ wrote:

tight jeans are for queers anyway to be metal u have to have like hand ripped jeans so that they are shorts below the knees and a "lamb of god" t-shirt or something.

he's definitly a scene kid (aka Poser). and all the bands up there are metalcore, not hardcore and the lesson was kind of bad.

[\m/CoBhC\m/]

LPIndin wrote:

\m/CoBhC\m/ wrote:

tight jeans are for queers anyway to be metal u have to have like hand ripped jeans so that they are shorts below the knees and a "lamb of god" t-shirt or something.

he's definitly a scene kid (aka Poser). and all the bands up there are metalcore, not hardcore and the lesson was kind of bad.

w/e u think dude

[tssg]

Who cares if they're punk, emo, metal or ne thing els, its not about the way they dress, its about the music.

[rickysaid]

thats how this kid learned how to play his tyle of hardcore
maybe it will be usefull for other kids
but i think you forgot the harmonics stuff
but i m not being critical it could be usefull
not a bad lesson

[metalhead!@#]

this sucks! why dont u use examples from August Burns Red, As I lay dying,or maybe Norma Jean?!?!?!u missed alot of stuff.terror chords would have been good to have in this lesson

[demoncorbin]

hey scare crow bitch, this was a good lesson, especially since its apparently the first one the guy's done so go back to sucking your thumb and keep your mouth shut and your fingers off the key board

[Holocaust Angel]

Metalhead!@#, you must be half-retarted to think As I Lay Crying and Norma Scene are metal... Anyway, I didn't mind this lesson, but jesus christ, you can be Jimi Hendrix reincarnated and post a lesson and be flamed to Hell and back.

[metalisim]

HAHAHHAHAHHAHHAH

[metalisim]

AVENGED SEVENFOLD DOES NOT HAVE BREAKDOWNS THEY SUCK
suicide silence has breakdowns. Implosive disgorgence has breakdowns. i need to wite a ****ing lesson

[metalisim]

oh yeah atreyu sucks too

[black_coffin]

slashwyldepage wrote:

what. the. feck.


way to not teach anyone anything.
and way to pick the bottom of the barrel as metalcore bands go.



get bent.

[RICKMORANIS]

Goddamn there are some serious jerks on this forum.
Those of you who randomly flame people who are genuinely trying to help out, I ask you this, What the fk makes you so special? Show me some proof of your illustrious musical careers, and demonstrate to us your extensive knowledge of musical theory and then perhaps you may have valid reason to doubt others. Until then, shut the fk up. Nerds.

[Thrash n' Grind]

Good stuff, it's kind of depressing how geeks bash these articles...you're not critics, you're reading a farking lesson submitted by an average dude, there are ways to criticize without saying "get bent" (lawl) like black_coffin did

[adrenalinerush2]

this is pretty much exactly what all metal bands play just a few dropped d riffs and some fast runs on the a string. hammer on's and pull off's

[Doomski]

www.myspace.com/postmortempromises
www.myspace.com/fromthecarnivalofhorrors

[xThis_Is_Nowx]

Atreyu and A7x are metal, yes, but why would you want to site bands that have totally changed their styles. If you listen to Atreyu's early ep Visions (which is amazing) you will find that atreyu takes more from Gorilla Biscuits or some old school hxc band than lamb of god. I like both, but Atreyu and A7x are repeating the faults of 80's metal. These bands are saying no to screaming, and hardcore riffs, like Metallica said no to Thrash. You cant just leave a scene for your personal benefit, because thats selfish, and immoral.

[SlipKnoT_M4660T]

no offence man but I dont think this is that good, sorry.

[BestOfMe]

yeah i think you're lesson is okay at best, but Atreyu?pshhh...hardcore???not any chance at all and Norma Jean and Avenged Sevenfold...Norma Jean plays the same damn chords over and over...wuth virtually no lead guitar at all...seriously i don't need your guide because i already make my own hardcore/deathcore/metalcore/grindcore(really I play everything) music, and I don't actually need your help, but I just wanted to see if you had anything in common with what I do...because I'm myself, and if you heard the stuff I play you'd love it and it is actual hardcore stuff...because i play brutal stuff with influences like Job For A Cowboy, Suicide Silence, The Number Twelve Looks Like You, Between The Buried and Me, Underoath(which by the way is an incredible band who's mucic has changed quite a bit over the years and it shows through their albums, but maintain incredibleness through all the years.) and I could go on all day with bands...like literally I could, there are so many bands that I love...but what I listen to and play is the real hardcore music...

[BestOfMe]

mispelling on "with", sorry

[br4vw]

bad brains, internal affairs, minor threat...I thought that was hardcore?

[nickfinn]

Yuck, NONE of them bands are hardcore. TRY Madball, Agnostic Front, Sick Of It All, Champion, Terror, Judge ect. for some real hardcore.

UNEARTH is PROBABLY the band who created the genre "metalcore", as they are the earliest band i kno to use this unique mix of hardcore and metal we are all seeing today.
We all have different oponions and we can play the "genre/band game" all day. In the end its all pointless, why can we just either make it hardcore or metal instead of making millions of sub genres and then fighting on online forums untill the apocolipse.
If anything all the bands in the article are metal( and dont give me any "metallica" shit as they are OLD and music DOES evolve overtime)

[nickfinn]

oh and btw, YES, Bad Brains, Internal Affairs, and of cource, the mighty Minor Threat are all HARDCORE

[noahray]

according to ug, metalcore is the same thing as hardcore and if you post about "metalcore" bands outside the hardcore forum you get warned. crap. this is a pathetic excuse for a lesson, "i dont really know this," "you need to look this up yourself" "scrounge this site," "i dont know any solos or scales..." then why did you post this crapy, 1/4th assed lesson? in all honesty, metalcore has just evolved from the sheer number of shitty bands that can't play or solo for shit and they just replace any semblance of talent with "chugga chugga" breakdowns. wow, you can play open notes. wow, you wrote an entire song using only open notes. goor for you.

[aggiefan33]

Botch - We Are the Romans started the whole metalcore genre. Too bad it has all gone to hell.

[deathisfinegimm]

i have a washburne wI64 with duel humbuckers, does anyone know if ths is a good guitar for pinch harmonics? they are the original humbuckers that came with the guitar

it doesnt matter what kind of guitar, elements or amp you have, but the easiest way to learn it is to add some overdrive or distortion and put your tone switch down.

[KSE_1#fan]

ALL ROCK MUSIC IZ GOOD...FUCK WHAT YOU CALL IT..

[KSE_1#fan]

IT'S ALL THE SAME...TURN THAT SHIT UP...BANG YOUR FUCKIN HEADS...PUNCH SOMEONE IN THE MOUTH...

[KSE_1#fan]

GARTH BROOKS RULES (NOT REALLY) JUS LAUGH...DUDE,THE LESSON WAS STRAIGHT

[frottage]

duuuude, what about Trivium, Unearth, and Lamb of God? A7X and Atreyu are lame. if i knew about scales and crap, i'd do a metalcore lesson.

[grh1107]

honestly A7X and atreyu are no what near metal/hardcore. AX7 make sellout shit music and atreyu is emo

[J03Y13]

atreyu used to be sort of hardcore like in their first cd era.. but a7x is definitely neither of those genres..