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Polyrhythms

author: UG Team date: 07/31/2003 category: guitar techniques
rating: 6.5 / votes: 8 

Although the word polyrhythm technically means "many rhythms", it's most commonly used to describe the layering of multiple time signatures. For example, Steve Vai's The Attitude Song, in the main riff, has the guitars playing in 7/8 and the drums in 4/4 simultaneously. How could this work? What happens is this: 4/4 is the same as 8/8. So, when one bar of 7/8 is complete, the bar of 4/4 still has one eighth note remaining, so the "1" beat of the second bar of the 7/8 rhythm falls on the last eighth note of the 4/4 rhythm.

Now, after the second 7/8 bar has finished, the "1" beat of the third 7/8 bar will fall on the second-last eighth note in the second bar of the 4/4 rhythm. What you will notice from the example, in which guitar 1 plays in 7/8, and guitar 2 plays in 4/4, is that the "1" beat of the two rythms become increasingly displaced from one another by one eighth note, until eight bars of 7/8 are complete, at which point the "1" beat of the 7/8 rhythm syncronises with the "1" beat of the 4/4 rhythm again.

Ex1:
D|->------->-----|->------->-----|->-3----->-----|
A|-----2---------|---3-2---------|-1-----------1-|
E|-0-1---3-1-0-1-|-1-----4-3-1-2-|-----1-2-0-1---|
 |                                                            
D|->------->-------|->------->-------|->------->-------|
A|-----------------|-----------------|-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-|
E|-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-0-|-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-|-----------------|

etc.

Notice the displacement? This causes a shifting effect that sounds cool when done properly. Often, when the two "1" beats re-synchronize, one of the instruments will change time the two instruments are in the same time.

Of course, you could layer any two, or three, time signatures you like. If you could find a musician who can count 128th notes, you could layer a 4/4 rhythm over a 127/128 rhythm, and they'd synchronize exactly every 128 bars! Now, some "homework": write and/or record music using some of these polyrhythmic layers:

                     4/4, 3/4.
                     5/4. 2/4
                     7/4, 4/4
                  5+4)/4, 6/4
                     5/8, 3/4

POSTED: 07/31/2003 - 07:16 am + print this article + mail to a friend
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 9 
 comments posted
ChurchNSkate :
...say what
POSTED: 12/28/2003 - 04:22 pm / quote |
Bazza79 :
Actually a Poly-rhythm must fit into the same bar. So in the case of a 3 over 4 or 3/4 over 4/4 rhythm, you would play triplets in 4/4 and another instrument would be accenting every 4th triplet note thus playing 8thnotes in 3/4 and effectively playing 3 beats over the other instruments 4 beats
POSTED: 01/12/2004 - 11:16 am / quote |
Half Monkey :
woah that is awesome, i'm gonna try that. cool lesson
POSTED: 07/07/2005 - 07:40 pm / quote |
Mortigi Tempo :
coolio
POSTED: 01/30/2006 - 12:14 pm / quote |
IriShDroPkick :
h
POSTED: 06/24/2006 - 03:03 am / quote |
IriShDroPkick :
sorry for that comment^ didnt mean to do that :P/

niec lesson it helped me a lot

POSTED: 06/24/2006 - 03:03 am / quote |
BlumeCrew :
Cool technique, and will definately be awesome for prog, but feel the article could be a little clearer.
POSTED: 06/28/2006 - 09:57 pm / quote |
fingersofflame :
nice, but pretty vague...could definitely have more content
POSTED: 11/15/2006 - 11:28 am / quote |
earache :
I'd like to know more about this! Can someone please do a follow-up on this? Thanks!
POSTED: 03/27/2007 - 03:26 pm / quote |
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