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QOTSA's Troy Van Leeuwen: 'It Is Not Healthy To Do One Thing To Excess'

artist: queens of the stone age date: 04/29/2008 category: interviews
QOTSA's Troy Van Leeuwen: 'It Is Not Healthy To Do One Thing To Excess'

Troy Van Leeuwen has a secret. It’s a secret that he shares with fellow musician, Queens Of The Stone Age main man Josh Homme. Like Homme, Leeuwen refuses to reveal the formula that drives the tone of the Queens unique and groundbreaking sound. Yet behind Leeuwen’s – and Homme’s for that matter - veil of secrecy lays a simple and quite understandable motive.

Creating one’s sound and developing it into something unique takes much trial and error as well as time and much patience. So why would any musician want to reveal to others the formula to their holy grail of tone after having spent their life trying to find it and perfecting it in the first place? I mean people would like to know the secret ingredient to Colonel Sanders’s friend chicken recipe. But stripping away the mystique from it all would take away the wonder behind it. Sometimes it’s better to wonder than to have all the answers given to you.

It’s the journey that matters after all. Isn’t it better to be inspired to go on the same journey in finding your own unique musical voice? And mystery creates excitement anyway. So with this in mind, Joe Matera recently caught up with Troy Van Leuween to enquire about his musical career thus far.

Ultimate-Guitar: Within the framework of the Queens of the Stone Age, how does the songwriting process usually work between you and Josh Homme?

Troy Van Leuween: There is no set way in the way we work. To be honest, we sort of go with what’s happening. For this last record Era Vulgaris in particular, we both had parts and pieces and kind of constructed it from that and then experimented with it all while we were in the studio. Our motto is whatever works, works. There is no real right or wrong way of doing it.

When it came for the recording process for Era Vulgaris it was very long and laborious taking ten months to make, the longest it has ever taken you to make an actual album.

Yeah. We have never done it that way before. It has always been where we have had the songs pretty much close to finish and then we’d go into the studio and knock them out in a couple of weeks. But this time, we decided to try a different approach where we really wanted to get into the experimental process for making a record. But we still had fun at the same time.

The guitars on Era Vulgaris sound way crunchier and heavier than heard on previous Queens’ albums. Was that due mainly to the experimental approach you took in the studio?

I guess so. The Queens have always had a sort of signature guitar sound. And this is just a different version of that. And it definitely has a little more bite and a little bit more heaviness. And we did muck around with a few different guitars this time around too. The previous album before that - Lullabies to Paralyze - we were doing a lot of stuff with hollow bodies while for this record, we kind of got into single coil, wire-y sort of sounds.

In regards to the guitar parts that both you and Josh play, how do you assign each other’s parts as to who plays what and where?

It is a very natural process where we usually come up with own things. I would never tell him what to do and I think the same for when it comes to me. While there is a chemistry between us there for sure, we do try to one up each other every once in awhile so that we can keep it fresh and keep it kind of on edge.

"We have a kind of "veil of secrecy" when it comes to anything to do with our gear."
What sort of gear are you currently using?

I’ll tell you what? I’ll let you in on a couple things only.

Okay, so you’re like Josh who also doesn’t like to reveal any of his and the band’s tone secrets?

Yes, we have a kind of “veil of secrecy” when it comes to anything to do with our gear. So all I’m going to reveal is this. Mainly I’m using my signature model Yamaha SA503 TVL which I use quite a lot of live. And for the latest record, I also used a 1972 reissue Fender Telecaster which I call the ‘Keith Richards’ model. I also used a vintage 1952 Fender Jaguar as well as some Les Paul guitars for some of the lower tunings. So guitar wise, that is kind of covering all bases. And I actually still have a Yamaha AES1500 hollow-body as well that I use quite a bit too.

You play Seymour Duncan pickups exclusively. Why do you choose those pickups over other brands?

For some reason ever since I was a kid, they’ve always seemed to have a better tone. And of course over the years they’ve grown into doing all sorts of stuff where you pretty much can get any thing you want from them as far as a pickup goes. Everything from a pick-up with high gain to a pick-up that has low output with more of a vintage sound to it. So I’ve always stuck with them and they’ve always been really cool to me because I always use their stuff.

I agree as I use the Seymour Duncan JBs in my guitars as I think they’re brilliant pickups.

Yeah I also use those same pickups in all my Les Paul guitars, those and the Seymour Duncan Customs. Seymour Duncan really seems to know what they’re doing.

So what about the amps you’re using?

I’m not going to tell you what amp I’m using except that it is an Ampeg combo of some sort. But also I’ve recently started using this Vox amp. It’s like an AC-50 but is a newer head that the company is using. I’m using that for Lap Steel. I am kind of getting into their stuff a lot lately too. We did this salt mine gig in Germany where we played like half a mile under the surface of the earth and we didn’t want to use any really loud amps, so I used an AC-15 for that gig and it sounded perfect. And because of that I started getting more into Vox. They also have this little Brian May amp that has a treble boost in it, that also is a great sounding amp. Recently I’ve also been using a lot of stuff from Dunlop too. I’ve really gotten into their new line of stuff. I use their Wah pedal and this great new analog delay called a Carbon Copy. Dunlop is another company that really makes a lot of stuff that is really well worth it and all sound great too.

Aside from the guitar you also play lap steel, keyboards and other instruments. How did you progress from guitars onto all these other instruments?

I suppose as a kid I started playing around with all sorts of instruments as I grew up with a piano and a family that could all play different instruments. Guitar though was mainly the instrument I really gravitated to the most. But over the years it is like sometimes you need other stuff to inspire you. You can learn other stuff from playing piano and then you bring that stuff to guitar and it inspires you in new ways and vise versa.

"Over the years it is like sometimes you need other stuff to inspire you."
Is touring with the Queens of the Stone Age all what it is portrayed to be like in the media, a combination of sex, drugs and rock and roll?

What it really is… [pauses]… is that it is a good balance of that put to the discipline of learning stuff figuring stuff out. It is true that this is a rock and roll band and we’re not you know…[pauses] well let me put it this way, it’s not Sunday school. But at the same time, I think we all have a pretty good head on our shoulders to kind of like balance that all out with actually doing something that is important. That is the way I look at it. I believe it is not really healthy to do one thing to excess.

What is the current status of your band Enemy?

The status is I haven’t had a chance to record any music. And I have a record’s worth of stuff but I just need to be home for longer than just a couple days to do it. But yes I’m planning to make another record and I’ve got a couple of other projects that I’ve kind of produced and written for and played on too. There is a whole bunch of stuff I’m trying to get done.

Aside from the Queens you’ve played with A Perfect Circle. Obviously with each band it is a total different mind set you need to have so how do you go approaching that mind set for each respective band?

The approach to A Perfect Circle is a very subtle one. It is very delicate music and it is very intricate as well. While the Queens it is kind of performed with a little more angst or a little more with short bursts, is the best way I can describe it. With A Perfect Circle there are lots of hills and valleys and you have to pick your moments really well where you can either get louder or get angry. And each band has different characters and all these characters are strong. In A Perfect Circle you have Billy, you have Maynard and Josh Freese and each one of those characters are so great at what they do. And to play with them brings something different out of you all the time. While with the Queens, it is a bit of a powerhouse right now. The band is on fire and it is very intense.

Speaking of Billy Howerdel he has been working on some new music.

Yes, it’s a new project called Ashes Divide and if you like A Perfect Circle you’re going to like it. A Perfect Circle was really his music. I don’t play on the album but I really like it and back it totally. We did get together a couple of times over the last couple of years but he really takes his time. And rather than force something to happen, we just decided to hang out. I listened to a bunch of his new music but it seemed he had it pretty much covered if you know what I mean. He likes to pick the parts and then divide amongst the musicians. He is such a well rounded player.

Interview by Joe Matera
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POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 04:46 am + print this article + mail to a friend
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 comments posted
brianmoorebass :
yea 1st

I heard that homme uses a bass amp with the highs low and the bass high to get the tone but hes probably just throwing us of the cent.

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 05:15 am / quote |
Guitarism12 :
Yer. If you really dying to know just take a pair of binoculars to one of there concerts and see what gear there using.
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 06:48 am / quote |
soapalot :
Troy is a great player, it's just a shame he won't share his secrets!
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 06:48 am / quote |
Chinfrim :
That's a bit, too, freaky, but still.
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 06:52 am / quote |
One Inch Man :
while he was in kyuss he used a bass amp. now i dont know and he wont tell ;D

Very good interview. I like this guy. Awesome Musician!

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 06:52 am / quote |
StringsofBlack :
God I love this band.
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 06:58 am / quote |
Wraithz0r :
Qotsa Rocks so hard, both their guitarists are great. I wish I could afford their equipment!
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 07:09 am / quote |
stradivari310 :
This guy has such a nice signature guitar. It's one of the few artist models I would actually buy.
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 07:20 am / quote |
Predator 182 :
Cool to see he was using the Vox BM Deacy for some things. I read to that Josh uses mostly a bass amp and some cool vintage overdrive pedals.
I can't stop listening to their latest album, if fu*king rocks!

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 07:56 am / quote |
Circle :
cool. just found out i share surnames with the guitarist of QOTSA , gonna see them this summer at Pinkpop (holland) really looking forward to it!
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 08:52 am / quote |
life_247 :
brianmoorebass wrote:

yea 1st

I heard that homme uses a bass amp with the highs low and the bass high to get the tone but hes probably just throwing us of the cent.


He did that for a bit back in the Kyuss days.

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 10:00 am / quote |
NorfIrIon :
brianmoorebass wrote:

yea 1st

I heard that homme uses a bass amp with the highs low and the bass high to get the tone but hes probably just throwing us of the cent.


Makes sense, thinking back, I know a few other bands who do the same thing and their guitars sound similar.

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 10:26 am / quote |
CE49 :
*goes out and buys Seymour Duncan pick-ups*
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 11:07 am / quote |
Andron17 :
Josh Homme just straight out lies about his gear

I don't mean that in a bad way.

it's great, like a magazine think there getting all this inside info and their just being tricke. jokes

QotSA for life



POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 11:16 am / quote |
red157 :
Interesting interview, will always read a talk with any of the QOTSA collective.
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 11:34 am / quote |
Huggy (-.-) :
Andron17 wrote:

Josh Homme just straight out lies about his gear

I don't mean that in a bad way.

it's great, like a magazine think there getting all this inside info and their just being tricke. jokes

QotSA for life



Its quite funny really (y)

Seeing them at leeds festival this year, and i cant wait! Good interview (y)

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 11:43 am / quote |
smb :
This interview is pretty much just Troy plugging his endorsements - SD, Yamaha, Dunlop. The Ampeg combo they use is the VT-22, in case anyone is interested.
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 12:22 pm / quote |
CapnKickass :
damn I love the tone in Songs for the Deaf, particularly in You Think I Aint Worth A Dollar But I Feel Like A Millionaire. I haven't even listened to Era Vulgaris yet though.
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 12:42 pm / quote |
JD89 :
Colonel Sanders’s friend chicken recipe


Pretty sure there's no friendship between Colonel Sanders and chickens.

Anyway, QOTSA are amazing and Troy is fairly underrated as a guitarist IMO

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 12:47 pm / quote |
blaze2thekings :
friend of mine said he saw hommes use a mesa boogie in kyuss
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 12:48 pm / quote |
Black Revolver :
awesome band, i love all their albums. and i agree with the guy who said that Troy is pretty underrated
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 01:05 pm / quote |
recliner33 :
I think it's cool that they don't reveal secrets about their gear. They let people find out about it on their own and I'm sure you can emulate their sound if you dinker around for a bit. Plus if they told you their gear and all the settings and stuff then there are going to be a ton of copycats out there. Originality is the key. I'm seeing the queens in 2 weeks in Hamilton, can't wait. Should be a kickass show
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 01:26 pm / quote |
kop4 :
i guess he uses some special custom made effects, like
most of the pros do.

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 01:28 pm / quote |
frusciante.ve :
looks like Severus Snape, hahah
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 01:33 pm / quote |
SkyValley :
Colonel Sanders
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 02:47 pm / quote |
bolezhinkov :
how come y'all care about the gear they use so much? its all about taking what you have and doing the msot with it. I was using a yorkville bass amp and a danelectro pedal with and Epi LP and with the right work you can get his sounds no problem.

its not so much about the guitars amps and pedals as it is the music you make with them. sure the SD pickups would be awesome Im sure but the differences between all this gear isnt as large as youd think.

get experimental!

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 03:32 pm / quote |
bolezhinkov :
anyone else noticed that josh kind of let troy and joey off the leash? they seem to be getting out and doing their own interviews and shit lately, its good - takes the pressure off jho to run the show all the time.

and sort of makes up for nick being gone, not to beat a dead horse. NOT that joey and troy = nick or whatever. but you know.

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 03:35 pm / quote |
mcyrus10 :
cool interview, i think i like apc more than quotsa, but both have pretty strong track records
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 04:49 pm / quote |
DanteR* :
If only Failure would reunite....
I love APC and QOTSA but that would be amazing.

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 07:04 pm / quote |
Chris_Parker :
Wow, Troy gave away a lot, considering he's Queens. I was expecting it to be all BS, but it may actually have a bit of truth in it. Well, he uses Ampegs, like Josh, which is cool, since I was going to try and get one eventually. They're probably one of my top 3 biggest influences musically.

They've yet to make a bad song/record, and I doubt they ever will.

I NEED MORE DESERST SESSIONS!

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 09:03 pm / quote |
GnikNus :
CapnKickass wrote:

damn I love the tone in Songs for the Deaf, particularly in You Think I Aint Worth A Dollar But I Feel Like A Millionaire. I haven't even listened to Era Vulgaris yet though.

you should definitely get it, love that album

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 09:15 pm / quote |
NiCk_FuRy :
****... I hate people who are always looking to know what equipment guy or band uses... damn! look for yourselves! go to work, spend money and try it out.. stop immitatting..
sorry for the bad english!

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 09:31 pm / quote |
rockguitarist20 :
Long live Billy Howerdel, one of the subtlest and most underrated guitarists ever!
POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 10:10 pm / quote |
insurgentsteve :
NiCk_FuRy wrote:

****... I hate people who are always looking to know what equipment guy or band uses... damn! look for yourselves! go to work, spend money and try it out.. stop immitatting..
sorry for the bad english!


as blatant as you put it, im gonna have to agree. You can model your sound after someone, but you shouldn't replicate it. That's just how I feel.

POSTED: 04/29/2008 - 11:12 pm / quote |
skinneh :
I love Billy. Go back to APC please!!
POSTED: 04/30/2008 - 12:06 am / quote |
legoflamb :
frusciante.ve wrote:

looks like Severus Snape, hahah


Snape that can conjure a few good riffs, mind you. haha I'm going to see these guys in 12 days... can't wait.

A note to everyone: you shouldn't be envying someone else's "equipment". It's how you use your own that should matter. haha

POSTED: 04/30/2008 - 01:24 am / quote |
higherworlds :
i believe i had got queens tone, and im not telling
POSTED: 04/30/2008 - 01:25 am / quote |
higherworlds :
ok heres one thing, the ampeg vt-22 with the magnavox 7027 tubes, and a certain fuzz pedal, got to geuss that one
POSTED: 04/30/2008 - 01:27 am / quote |
Pukka-VCU :
I'm seeing these guys for the second time tonight, should be insane! Great interview.
POSTED: 04/30/2008 - 06:04 am / quote |
Cafas :
Just because you want to know what gear someone is using doesn't mean you want to copy their sound. It's not only interesting, but the more you learn about different kinds of gear, the easier you can shape the tone you hear in your head.

Seriously, the ignorance of a few you people is astounding. There's NEVER anything wrong with learning new things.

POSTED: 04/30/2008 - 06:06 am / quote |
gareno :
queens of the stone age are pretty awesome except (my opinion) i think they get a little too repetitive at times
POSTED: 04/30/2008 - 10:46 am / quote |
E_squared :
Era Vulgaris is a really kick-ass album!
POSTED: 05/01/2008 - 01:38 am / quote |
Hops44 :
Just got back from their show in Vancouver, it was amazing.
POSTED: 05/01/2008 - 02:27 am / quote |
Notoriousdoc :
CapnKickass wrote:

damn I love the tone in Songs for the Deaf, particularly in You Think I Aint Worth A Dollar But I Feel Like A Millionaire. I haven't even listened to Era Vulgaris yet though.

It's on par with SFTD for me, it's totally awesome.

POSTED: 05/01/2008 - 05:48 am / quote |
Cobalt Blue :
yeah I don't think he uses Bass amps with QOTSA... well he might but i'm not sure. QOTSA stuff sounds a little more sharp then tones on Kyuss albums. plus they've been doing less C-tunning songs lately.
POSTED: 05/01/2008 - 01:56 pm / quote |
mikko_9119 :
i think their sound is awesome... and i would hate other bands to get popular and have the same sounds... its theirs, they should get a copyright or something haha
POSTED: 05/01/2008 - 03:26 pm / quote |
Bunyip :
frusciante.ve wrote:

looks like Severus Snape, hahah


HAHA

i dont get the whole gearhead approache to music It confuses me I just stick to the fretboard but I appreciate that people can get right into it and come up with some cool sounds

POSTED: 05/01/2008 - 11:36 pm / quote |
tenack :
I not really suprised i mean how would you feel if you made a million dollar sound but then it just gets copied by sume highschool punk like me lol im not one to judge im trying to copy to morellos fx board lol :p
POSTED: 05/03/2008 - 03:18 pm / quote |
since51592 :
CE49 wrote:

*goes out and buys Seymour Duncan pick-ups*



im with you on that.

POSTED: 05/03/2008 - 05:31 pm / quote |
Vinura :
yeah i always wondered how they got that muffled tone in little sister, sounds cool
POSTED: 05/04/2008 - 04:41 am / quote |
aocrkid :
failure reunion!!
POSTED: 05/04/2008 - 12:27 pm / quote |
Dragon Master :
aocrkid wrote:

failure reunion!!


I don't know what band you have been following to say that. Anyway, Queens of the Stone Age is amazing, but they don't seem like normal people.

POSTED: 05/04/2008 - 09:16 pm / quote |
vo2oad :
higherworlds :
i believe i had got queens tone, and im not telling


Congrats, you suck
Nobody cares

POSTED: 05/05/2008 - 11:56 am / quote |
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