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The Battle Of The Genres

author: sharkeyanti date: 04/19/2004 category: genres' battles
rating: 6.6 / votes: 21 

Alright, alright, last time I wrote an article it was on soloing, and now I'm here to help settle the genre dispute that rages on at UG. 've noticed that UG-ers are generally split on Punk and Metal guitar playing here. And I've got a few things to say about it.

01. There is more than punk and metal. Plain and simple! I myself listen to classic rock, blues, funk, early punk, and a tad bit of metal. Many arguments between the Punk and Metal genres is that punk is nothing but power chords and metal has "awesome solos dude." Well, in other genres, people play other stuff, to say short and sweetly.

02. Realize that Punk and Metal are quite similar, rhythmically at least. Both types of music use power chords, a lot. Punk guitarists tend to downstroke their three power chords the whole song and play a "solo" for a good ten seconds. I myself dislike it strongly because of its repetiveness and overall being boring and not complex at all. Metal guitarists tend to tune down their guitar to Drop D or similar and play a real simple rhythm real hard. But they both play power chords repeatedly! Metallica does it, Good Charlotte does it, Sum 41, Slayer, Megadeth, Jet, [insert emo band here (haha)], etc.

03. Like it has been said a billion times before, different strokes for different folks. Playing Metal style with crazy solo would not work in punk, and vice versa, so complaining about Punk's lack of solos is really pointless.

04. Accept that there are other types of music. This statement is especially geared toward metalheads. All the comments i see from them are like "Punk f--king sucks! Hammet is god!" It kind of makes me sad that people don't want to accept that other people are allowed to lsiten to what they like, personally I think Good Charlotte has terrible lyrics, terrible guitar playing, and no soul, but I have friends who like the band, do I hate them? No. So plain and simple, let people like what they want to like.

And since I'm ad-libbing this let's move onto another touchy topic, Power Chords.

I myself think power chords are essenital to rock, to a point. Robert Johnson, king of the delta blues and the man we the creation of rock and blues to, played power chords. But he didn't repeatedly dowsntroke them, he mixed melody with rhythm and payed attention to detail. Today in music, I think it's fair to say that power chords are grossly overused, thus making the music sound pretty flat and dull, to me at least.

I would love for popular music to bring good guitar-work back. I'm tired of the same power chord progression, or metal thrashing. In my opinion blues-rock is the pinnacle of music, wherein which most of our "guitar gods" have come from. Guys like Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, George Harrison, David Gilmour.

POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 09:19 am + print this article + mail to a friend
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 119 
 comments posted
West :
I'm like you, I don't enjoy metal or punk very much. It's not about 'DURR POWER CHORDS SUCK', it's about the repitition and un-originality. Good job!
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 10:19 am / quote |
Castro :
2nd.Good article.You have a point heare
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 10:27 am / quote |
chaz man :
You do have a good point. You could have explaned some things a little bit better though.
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 11:06 am / quote |
Jaeger :
the last thing UG needed was another article about genres.
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 11:15 am / quote |
zepplinmike :
It is unfair to punk for you to use Good Charlotte to represent the genre. GC is not ***ing punk. You should have used bands like the Clash and the Dead Kennedys to represent real punk.
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 11:37 am / quote |
AuthenticBass :
punk bands have solos

good article
even though its been said over and over....

POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 11:51 am / quote |
Chili_dog :
power bombs are rofl teh b0x0rz man. Just use them in small doses...mix them in with single not lines and riffs, or have a heavy power chord bridge or something...just not the same chords for the whole song!
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 12:01 pm / quote |
Chili_dog :
uuh i meant power chords are good, i dont know what the *** power bombs are rofl teh b0x0rz man means....sorry, my bad
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 12:03 pm / quote |
Slapkid :
Whats with powerchords?.. for me its good..
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 12:13 pm / quote |
DParis :
this article sucks. dont post anything that is as pointless as this. all you say is "accept other peoples styles of music". No. Good Charlotte suck.
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 12:56 pm / quote |
quo_vadis :
This article is really poorly made u didn't use any proper representation of genres good charlete a punk band? Metallica's new stuff is more like nu-metal and there old stuff is more like hard rock and megadeth is more like old-school metal/hard rock i mean like what the hell man and metal isn't repetitive at all personnaly i like both punk and metal although i prefer metal, punk is still pretty good. Most importantly articles are supposed to be about facts not opinion!
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 03:36 pm / quote |
MrLucky77713 :
Do genres' battles ever have more than opinion?

I like to avoid even attempting to write on of these. I think for fun I'd like to do a spoof of that "Why Punk?" article...

POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 05:35 pm / quote |
janecoffin27 :
I think you're confused on what metal is.
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 05:58 pm / quote |
Jimmy_Page_Zep :
Good article...bad choice of examples for bands (like Good Charlotte), but good ideas
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 06:25 pm / quote |
emokid182 :
^^^ i agree there. The points were ok... but bad exaples. ok aritcle i guess
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 06:50 pm / quote |
frigginjerk :
meh
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 06:52 pm / quote |
be-back :
meh meh meh heheheeheh
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 07:13 pm / quote |
gryftorsguitar :
i feel like i read the same arical all the time. this was all said in like 6 other recent articals. STOP REPEATING THIS
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 07:22 pm / quote |
Zeke5000 :
im sick of people calling good charlotte punk. THEY ARE POP!!! i hate hearing people say they hate punk cause of good charlotte. i hate people saying they are punk cause they listen to good charlotte. QUIT USEING GOOD CHARLOTTE AS AN EXAMPLE OF PUNK!!! INstead of buying clothes for good charlotte go buy a dead kennedys cd. GOD DAMN POSERS
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 08:09 pm / quote |
sharkeyanti :
i completely think my article i wrote was trash, so hey, bash it to your heart's content
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 08:09 pm / quote |
da_loyde :
well if ur point is 2 let ppl liek what they want then you also have 2 let ppl bitch about shit as much as they want cause htey have a right 2 liek metal and haate punk if they feel leik voicing their opinion hten let htem get flamed for it by ppl liek me and writer who listen 2 MUSIC ( classic rock blues, funk etc.) casue u aint gona stop ppl from saying punk sucks it uses power chords metallica rocks it has awsoem solos
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 08:14 pm / quote |
Addict :
As soon as I read that you were using Metallica, Slayer etc. as metal examples I stopped reading. There is basically a whole different genre(or many more)of metal underground, bands that don't use drop D, only very rarely.
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 09:09 pm / quote |
sargasm :
Punk doesnt have solos... at least it shouldnt

good punk hasnt any solos

POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 10:37 pm / quote |
OnspringFan :
ok, good article. all ive gotta say is that you should add Offspring to you "good bands to represent punk" list, their obviously one of the best punk bands ever...and to you sargasm, your either retarded or you dont know what a good band is, because if you think "good" punk doesnt have solos, then youve obviously never heard of mxpx, nofx, or offspring.
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 10:58 pm / quote |
OnspringFan :
sargasm...you obviously dont know good punk if u dont think it has solos...ever heard of mxpx, nofx, of offspring? retard..
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 11:02 pm / quote |
nasty_santa409 :
this has been done before except with different articles.
POSTED: 04/19/2004 - 11:11 pm / quote |
UseYourBrain :
OnspringFan:
sargasm...y
ou obviously dont know good punk if u dont think it has solos...ever heard of mxpx, nofx, of offspring? retard..
[POSTED: 19 April 2004 - 232]|


hey newb shut up.

I think the guy who wrote this is couragous, but not a great article in general.

POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 01:43 am / quote |
ad_lib_oz :
But Robert Johnson didnt play POWER CHORDS!!! He played 5ths...he played on an acoustic for christs sake, he cant get a power chord outta them...


Pfft anyway im over it!

some good points which havent been realised so far, but fairly generic otherwise

POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 08:15 am / quote |
driftinguitar :
genre's are over-rated. style is over-rated. somethings are similar to others, but they aren't the same, i don't like the idea of genres.

i listen to mostly all "genre's", mostly modern rock? rock? oldies? rap? hip hop? r&b uhm, little metal? uhhh, no one knows anymore. not even the people who would die over a genre battle.

ha! suckers. but seriously, i understand them, but all really really f*ckin' good bands have their own genre, what genre would you put metallica in? or blink182? or eminem? or sublime? pretty simple right? very very wrong. these bands are extremely original you can't clump together macintosh apples with royal gala apples.
there's too many genres.
haha! i don't know...

POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 09:14 am / quote |
deadkenedy :
Good Charlotte certainley gets a few mentions.
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 09:28 am / quote |
deadkenedy :
Zeke5000:
im sick of people calling good charlotte punk. THEY ARE POP!!! i hate hearing people say they hate punk cause of good charlotte. i hate people saying they are punk cause they listen to good charlotte. QUIT USEING GOOD CHARLOTTE AS AN EXAMPLE OF PUNK!!! INstead of buying clothes for good charlotte go buy a dead kennedys cd. GOD DAMN POSERS
Yer that hasnt been said before.

POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 09:30 am / quote |
Tom Martin :
I just hate it when people have a go at people cuz of the music they are into... also having a go at the whole of a genre, like emo or nu-metal... which get frequently bashed.
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 01:22 pm / quote |
Tom Martin :
A 5th is a powerchord by the way...
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 01:26 pm / quote |
the_beastly_one :
Good Charlotte fahking suck.
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 01:40 pm / quote |
Bluesbreaker7 :
I think this is a good article with a messgae worth saying. By the way, I totally agree about Blues-rock!
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 02:23 pm / quote |
Laser :
meh x59
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 03:54 pm / quote |
undead_bunny :
ok....u put good charlotte in an example with MetallicA????? what the ***ing hell....unless u said MetallicA rules good charlottes ass...lol anyway ok article
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 08:52 pm / quote |
undead_bunny :
ahhhh......I ment to say good charlotte sucks ass...just to clear that up lol
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 08:53 pm / quote |
Hellraizer31990 :
i like sum punk and sum metal...nice artcle
POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 10:21 pm / quote |
krunchy :
I accept that people like all genres, and personally I am not a big punk fan, but the person who said that the offspring are punk is an idiot!!!

The most well known punk band the Sex pistols had an anti establishment attitude. How could The offsprings why don't you get a job song be considered punk (it was a ripped off beatles tune anyway). How is that anti establishment.

POSTED: 04/20/2004 - 11:42 pm / quote |
bobisonthecob :
i did not like what you said about how metal solos could not be applied to other genres
POSTED: 04/21/2004 - 12:11 am / quote |
XxJohn-5xX :
Good.. i agree with everything. i aint mcuh for hardcore metal or hardcore punk. i am inbetween.but we need a guitarist for these days all of em these days suck. except JOHN 5
POSTED: 04/21/2004 - 12:41 am / quote |
BSabbath69 :
I just want to add one thing I like The Beatles but George Harrison was not a great guitar player he bassically played rhythm guitar why do you think they had Clapton play lead on my guitar gently weeps. Everything else you nailed
POSTED: 04/21/2004 - 01:12 am / quote |
Define_"punk" :
uhuh......:-I
POSTED: 04/21/2004 - 08:31 am / quote |
alvarols :
The people that only hear Metal and (or) punk is people that doesn't know about music and hear that 'cause that people want to belong in a social group, follow the fashion.
People that enjoy music listen to metal but also listen to other things like zeppelin, or, i don't know
but some people in this page think that metal or punk is the only thing that exist in the world.

POSTED: 04/23/2004 - 12:04 pm / quote |
alvarols :
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POSTED: 04/23/2004 - 12:06 pm / quote |
Oswald :
YOU SUCK!!!!!
PUNK AND METAL IS SOOOOOO DIFFERENT!!!
Get it.

POSTED: 04/24/2004 - 11:33 am / quote |
Oswald :
You can call my stereotype but that is true.
Punk is simple compared to Metal.

POSTED: 04/24/2004 - 11:33 am / quote |
cheesetastic :
you like what you like simple enough, dont over analyze everything
POSTED: 04/25/2004 - 10:23 pm / quote |
irish lamma :
Sharky you brought the smote upon yourself, but besides that i think your article is the gear
POSTED: 04/26/2004 - 10:52 pm / quote |
alaskanbassist :
This is way over critical. So you don't like all music styles. And besides, half these bands aren't in the genres you placed them in.
POSTED: 04/29/2004 - 06:34 pm / quote |
notagangster :
FU*CK ROCK FU*CK PUNK FU*CK HEAVY METAL AND ANOTHER THING FU*CK EVERYONE THAT HATES RAP AND FU*CK EVERYONE THAT LIKES ROCK!!!!!
POSTED: 04/29/2004 - 06:38 pm / quote |
guitarloser23 :
the world was such a happy place until sharkeyanti wrote an article. *sigh*
POSTED: 05/02/2004 - 05:41 pm / quote |
DefunctPunk06 :
i think you had a couple good points but the one i thought was best put was how good charlotte sucks ass. i totally agree.

ROCK OUT!!

POSTED: 05/06/2004 - 01:43 pm / quote |
guitarer :
music is complex don't simplfy it. shred more metal
POSTED: 05/16/2004 - 01:36 am / quote |
XQuickDeathX :
you could have explained everything way way better than that. Good charlotte is not a ***ing punk band. Overrall your article blows asshole
POSTED: 05/20/2004 - 07:07 pm / quote |
JamesV :
Since when have Megadeth played simple power chords progressions?

Know what you're talking about before you speek.

POSTED: 05/26/2004 - 02:58 am / quote |
JamesV :
and they have never used drop d
POSTED: 05/26/2004 - 02:58 am / quote |
nofxpunkrocker :
its a fuccing bummer you didnt say any PUNK bands.





































































cunt

POSTED: 05/26/2004 - 10:00 am / quote |
ElectricParade :
^^True ... If you're going to write an article about how you "strongly dislike" punk music, at least listen to some punk music. Good Charlotte are not punk and never will be. And I hate them. So there.
POSTED: 05/27/2004 - 10:05 pm / quote |
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POSTED: 06/02/2004 - 08:05 pm / quote |
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POSTED: 06/02/2004 - 08:06 pm / quote |
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POSTED: 06/02/2004 - 09:00 pm / quote |
blistabass :
over half this post is mine lol i hope they delete this stuff.
POSTED: 06/02/2004 - 09:01 pm / quote |
blistabass :
notagangster:
FU*CK ROCK FU*CK PUNK FU*CK HEAVY METAL AND ANOTHER THING FU*CK EVERYONE THAT HATES RAP AND FU*CK EVERYONE THAT LIKES ROCK!!!!!
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notagangster:
FU*CK ROCK FU*CK PUNK FU*CK HEAVY METAL AND ANOTHER THING FU*CK EVERYONE THAT HATES RAP AND FU*CK EVERYONE THAT LIKES ROCK!!!!!
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POSTED: 06/03/2004 - 10:36 pm / quote |
SickGirl :
omfg people yall keep bashing on good charlotte b/c they arnt punk!! they never said they were!!! the damn writer is just too stupid to know where to put them!!! good charlotte doesnt call themselves anything they dont care they just love doing music. yall keep saying they suck and crap but just b/c they arent as heavy as some bands that you like doesnt mean they suck! if YOU dont like em, get over it, it doesnt matter what YOU think. good charlotte has alot of fans that helped them through things like suicide and family problems. not for money, but b/c they want to help and they have been through it. alright i know this article isnt about them but there are way too many ignorant f*ckers on here that dont know wat the hell they are talking about. I was going to comment about the article but saw all these stupid comments on wat THEY think is right.just think for once. maybe the kind of music you like autamatically is the best or the music you dont like automatically sucks.
POSTED: 06/10/2004 - 06:31 pm / quote |
SickGirl :
this is what yall sound like
"well they arent MY kind of music so they suck and the kind of music I like is the better than any other kinds."

POSTED: 06/13/2004 - 08:55 pm / quote |
SickGirl :
and how can you say a band sucks when they probably play better than you? oh yah I forgot. b/c YOU dont like that kind of music. thats right i forgot. good charlotte isnt heavy enough to be "cool" so therefore they suck.
POSTED: 06/13/2004 - 08:59 pm / quote |
metallicafan180 :
^ shut up you f*cking bitch! don't be insulting metal just because many other people don't share your same opinion about good charolette. just shut the f*ck up!
POSTED: 06/16/2004 - 11:11 pm / quote |
blistabass :
sick girl is gay ive said taht a million times
POSTED: 06/17/2004 - 12:53 am / quote |
SickGirl :
im not insulting metal! wtf are you talking about!?? im not insulting any genre at all. im talking about all those people who are bashing on other bands b/c of their genre. i dont care if you dont like good charlotte just dont rag on them for stupid ass reasons!
POSTED: 06/18/2004 - 07:56 pm / quote |
metallicafan180 :
i'm gonna have to agree with blistabass on this one.
POSTED: 06/19/2004 - 12:56 pm / quote |
Enter the BIll :
Metallica does it, Good Charlotte does it, Sum 41, Slayer, Megadeth, Jet, [insert emo band here (haha)], etc. dude Metallica rox Good Charlotte sux sum 41 fux and never heard of slayer, the rest sux to this is a gay article.
and sik girl is ***ing stupid.

POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 01:18 pm / quote |
Enter the BIll :
u wasted ur time wit this article
POSTED: 06/21/2004 - 01:20 pm / quote |
Codonah :
??? Enter the Bill has never heard of Slayer and he says Metallica rox? How can this be? Why?
blistabass...good jod, i like your work.

Rock On

POSTED: 06/25/2004 - 09:52 pm / quote |
Codonah :
Oh yea, we should kill him.
POSTED: 06/25/2004 - 09:53 pm / quote |
IllegalMOFO :
dood how can you say metal doesn't accept other styles of music. Mainly Black Metal bands constantly look at classical music to create the filth that a select few can view as art. Metal is influenced by a lot of styles of music.....Blues has a major influence on metal. Oh yea, and whoever said *** metal.....quite frankly.....get your head out of your ass so you can get dicked for your stupid ignorant remarks.
POSTED: 07/02/2004 - 01:00 pm / quote |
lohnlennon :
jet isnt emo theyre one of the only bands today that are rock and roll
POSTED: 08/04/2004 - 12:16 pm / quote |
stormchaser :
Come on. all the examples were either nu-metal or pop-punk.
POSTED: 11/25/2004 - 02:26 pm / quote |
frey :
Sure, there is more than punk and metal. Although I am biased towards heavy metal, particularly early on, like some led zep, black sabbath etc. There is at least some good stuff in pretty much every genre of rock. You can't just steriotype one genre by bad examples. Sex pistols and the misfits are good exaples of good punk bands, as alice cooper and black sabbath are of metal, to put in the most subjective way possible. My point is that you can't judge an entire genre by what you don't like about it. Sure, there is more than metal and punk, and a few people need to get over that, but at the end of the day it's all rock and roll, and if band is what makes that, then it's all good.
POSTED: 03/23/2005 - 03:30 am / quote |
Dogwillhunt :
Whatever happened to the good old days when at least 9 out of every 10 rock bands had some decent songs? Nowadays, 90% of this garbage that the RIAA crams down our throats doesn't even have what it takes to be memorable. If you've never heard "Iron Man" by Black Sabbath or "Stairway To Heaven" by Led Zeppelin... what rock have you been living under? Or are you deaf? I've heard Good Charlotte. I've heard their songs... repeatedly. I can't for the life of me tell you what the name of their hit songs are. They're not important enough to remember. Everyone's heard "Welcome To The Jungle" or "Enter Sandman" or "Dr. Feelgood" or "Sweet Home Alabama" or "Another Brick In The Wall (all of the different parts)". People seem to forget that's what makes a hit song. Are people going to remember it for the rest of their lives? Most of the classics... yes. Most of this modern rock... possibly, but nobody's gonna remember Good Charlotte or that one song by Chumbawumba (you know the one I'm talking about... the really annoying one) because they aren't classics and they never will be. Oh, sure... 20 years down the road they might get a relatively small amount of airplay, but that's it. And if you still listen to Good Charlotte in 20 years, you'll probably be one of the few people that watch MTV9 because that's what they'll show along with crappy bands that are similar to Modest Mouse or The Killers, The Hives, The Vines, The White Stripes, Interpol, Franz Ferdinand, Sum 41... I could go on for another half a page. Modern rock sucks and there are very few exceptions... unfortunately those exceptions have been writing songs for 10+ years. I'm not trying to say that punk sucks or metal sucks, I'm just speaking on behalf of myself and millions upon millions of people just like me who feel that there are other options besides what MTV and MTV2 shamelessly plug on a daily basis. Get out there and broaden your horizons. Stop listening to mainstream music. Go watch a local rock band perform. You never know, there might be a band close to home that you find you really like compared to the crap the RIAA forces us to listen to when we turn on the radio or the television. The only reason some people like Good Charlotte is because that's pretty much all MTV has to offer, besides The Real World and Pimp My Ride. They don't even play music 90% of the time.
POSTED: 04/01/2005 - 08:43 pm / quote |
jade000 :
You now what sucks, all the new bands. Like the killers or Franz whatever or all those fags of simple plan and goodcharlotte those really get me mad.They Play pop not rock and i think they should be banned because of their gaynesss
POSTED: 04/04/2005 - 07:38 pm / quote |
jade000 :
Before you write shit sickgirl goodcharlotte sucks and it will never stop sucking. I know its your band or whatever but they suck.
POSTED: 04/04/2005 - 07:41 pm / quote |
jade000 :
kill him blistabass
POSTED: 04/04/2005 - 07:44 pm / quote |
Dogwillhunt :
You know what they say, jade000... if at first you don't succeed..... keep on SUCKING till you do SUCKceed. Maybe that was Good Charlotte's plan, along with The Killers, The Hives, The Vines, The White Stripes, Franz Ferdinand, Interpol, Modest Mouse, Simple Plan, Hot Hot Heat, The Used, Hoobastank, Scissor Sisters, My Chemical Romance, Jimmy Eat World, Bowling For Soup, The Strokes, The Yeah Yeah Yeah's, Blink 182, Sum 41, The Dresden Dolls, and pretty much EVERYTHING they play on "Alternative" radio these days. Alternative to what? Real music?! Taking a crap is so much easier when I listen to Good Charlotte. It helps my bowels release... kinda like an aural laxative.
POSTED: 04/04/2005 - 10:03 pm / quote |
Dogwillhunt :
SickGirl - omfg people yall keep bashing on good charlotte b/c they arnt punk!! they never said they were!!! the damn writer is just too stupid to know where to put them!!! good charlotte doesnt call themselves anything they dont care they just love doing music.
No, no, no SickGirl... they love "screwing" music, not doing music.

POSTED: 04/04/2005 - 10:09 pm / quote |
undeaded :
I don't think its about power chords or solos, its more if the music fits.
Solo's have gone out of fashion, because generally they don't fit.

Moving swiftly on VELVET REVOLVER have brought back this tradition of solos and theydon't really fit into anyones genre...

Kings of Leon have been soloing, because it fits into music, punk isnt meant to have solos, its the power chords which make them good...

POSTED: 04/07/2005 - 01:27 pm / quote |
AC_friggin'_DC :
i like the article don't like GC though
POSTED: 05/06/2005 - 11:26 pm / quote |
GNRobsessed013 :
How the *** can you compare Metallica to Good Charlotte?
undeaded:
I don't think its about power chords or solos, its more if the music fits.
Solo's have gone out of fashion, because generally they don't fit.

Moving swiftly on VELVET REVOLVER have brought back this tradition of solos and theydon't really fit into anyones genre...

Kings of Leon have been soloing, because it fits into music, punk isnt meant to have solos, its the power chords which make them good...

^Havent heard Kings of Leon, but i like your point about VR

POSTED: 05/14/2005 - 04:58 pm / quote |
Mike_uk2k :
you started off good, then just started bitching about types of music you don't like.
and you're wrong anyway, metal and punk fans don't necessarily hate each other. i mean, they have their differences, like any type of music, but somehow we manage to get along most of the time.
example? ok. metallica are a large number of people's definition of heavy metal, but alas, they adore punk music! they love bands like danzig and the ramones, and even have an entire 2cd album, 'Garage Inc', full of covers, many of which are punk. a punk example? sum41, they love metal! you'll almost never see them without at least one of them wearing an iron maiden shirt. they even played at Metallica's mtv icons show (and were the only good performance there).
i'm not saying it means that everything's rosy between punks and metalheads, but i think the ones you see attacking each other on here are a minority, who are incapable of tolerating any style that isn't 'theirs'.

POSTED: 05/16/2005 - 01:57 pm / quote |
4ero :
WTF ARE U TALKING ABOUT
Metallica, only power chords???..
have u even looked at the score for these guys? they have like 20 things on one note!!
and Good Charlotte, Sum 41 etc are NOT punk
theyre just mainstream pop bands that think theyre punk and if u listen to real punk music youll see what i mean

POSTED: 05/31/2005 - 07:16 pm / quote |
bigalreturns :
This is such a pointless discussion board, who gives a f*ck what genre music is, if you like how a song sounds listen to it, if u dont, use ur f*cking off button!
And punk fans, why get in some big strop cos GC or sum41 claim to be punk, does it affect you what they claim to be, do you feel obliged to listen to them cos they claim to be "your" type of music? If they think your genre is something they want to be a part of, then take it as a compliment, u still dont have to listen to them!
Just to make sure u realise, I'm not a GC fan, I think the majority of what they play is crap, played badly! I can say this cos i listened to their album from start to finish. How many of u people who say they're shit have actuallt listened to them? or do u just hate them cos of the people that listen to them?!
The guy who wrote this article speaks shit as well, someone like page was undeniably an awesome guitarist, who was in a band that wrote some great songs. But were these songs only great cos he was so good on guitar? In a word, no! Take the obvious Stairway to Heaven, a great song from start to finish. If you think it was only good cos of Page's awesome guitar, then surely u skip ur cd onto his solo, then turn it off, cos really, ne1 whos not totally shite on guitar can play the rest of the song!
And UG, why make a Genre Battle section? Why battle over genres? I think a song from any genre can be good, theres good metal songs, good rock songs, good punk songs, and yes, even good pop songs (is it blasphemy to say that on here?), so why not forget putting things in genres, listen to music u think sounds good, dress how u want to dress, act how u want to act and f*ck being cool, or hating music cos of who else likes it, just take music for what it is, and enjoy it!

POSTED: 06/01/2005 - 08:54 am / quote |
GnRrelease_it :
dude, do yourself a favor and don't compare Metallica to Good Charlotte.
POSTED: 07/29/2005 - 10:00 pm / quote |
MetalheadGuy :
someone needs a little education in metal
And, it's not like other genres suck, its just devotion

POSTED: 08/12/2005 - 11:11 am / quote |
metalhead212 :
wow someone is retarded. how can you say that all metal sounds the same. listen to iron maiden. now listen to arch enemy. both metal, completely different.
POSTED: 08/18/2005 - 09:00 pm / quote |
cab00se :
Dogwillhunt-"The only reason some people like Good Charlotte is because that's pretty much all MTV has to offer, besides The Real World and Pimp My Ride. They don't even play music 90% of the time."

dude...you are awsome....

POSTED: 08/20/2005 - 01:39 am / quote |
Dogwillhunt :
I must point out though... Stankervision, Viva La Bam and Jackass are pretty funny, but that's the only reason to even turn the TV to that channel.
POSTED: 08/22/2005 - 06:03 pm / quote |
ruberducky :
its fun to break the arguments with SONG

happy birthday to you happy birthday to you look like a monkey and you smell like one too!!!!

who watches MTV modern mucic is kinda...uh...hmm...STUPID

BLUES NEVER DIE good nite my FANS!

POSTED: 08/22/2005 - 11:12 pm / quote |
Maggot penis :
though jimi hendrix used a good amount of power chords.He used them in diferent ways BUT IT DONT MATTER CAUSE FUNK JAZZ PREPUNK R&B PUNK METAL DERIVE FROM THE SAME MUSIC
POSTED: 12/29/2005 - 05:29 am / quote |
I Walk Alone :
In my opinion blues-rock is the pinnacle of music, wherein which most of our "guitar gods" have come from. Guys like Jimi Hendrix, Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Clapton, Jimmy Page, George Harrison, David Gilmour.

Try Steve Vai.


POSTED: 01/14/2006 - 06:16 pm / quote |
throttle :
You're right. Let people listen to whatever kind of music they want. I love Techno, Trance and Dance, but I also like pop, rock, punk, and sometimes I listen to metal and Merylin Manson. So...
POSTED: 04/24/2006 - 10:27 am / quote |
punksucks23 :
SickGirl :
and how can you say a band sucks when they probably play better than you? oh yah I forgot. b/c YOU dont like that kind of music. thats right i forgot. good charlotte isnt heavy enough to be "cool" so therefore they suck.
good charlotte wears makeup, have no musical talent, and whine in every song. enough said GREAT ARTICLE

POSTED: 05/01/2006 - 05:44 pm / quote |
bluesbreaker59 :
^^^haha
POSTED: 06/16/2006 - 09:05 pm / quote |
bluesbreaker59 :
good article. very true on every subject
POSTED: 06/16/2006 - 09:05 pm / quote |
pagan_bloodlust :
i think you should actually check out some guitar tabs for the aforementioned metal band i think you will find more than 3 power chords, that is the major diffence between punk and metal, punk has not many technical elements like arpeggios or interval chords and certanly no difficult single note passages, and to point out another fact some rock songs are the same as your main reason for hating punk and metal, and if you hate repeditive riffing you should listen to death metal they make it a point to change tempo and riff styles throught one song so it turns into 3 smaller songs
POSTED: 09/08/2006 - 08:58 am / quote |
pagan_bloodlust :
alvarols :
The people that only hear Metal and (or) punk is people that doesn't know about music and hear that 'cause that people want to belong in a social group, follow the fashion.
People that enjoy music listen to metal but also listen to other things like zeppelin, or, i don't know
but some people in this page think that metal or punk is the only thing that exist in the world. to have you know i am a diehard metal fan i love(or have loved) every style, but i will put on a willie nelson album or even a robert johnston or skip james album and sure zepelin did some amzing things but that in itself is a cliche buy stating the one of the best known rock bands on the planet as an alternative to punk or metal why not mention an obscure band that no-ones heard of

POSTED: 09/08/2006 - 09:02 am / quote |
pagan_bloodlust :
another thing i want to get off my chest everyone says metal is dropped d tuning try dropped c or c minor or open d# they only use drop d if its a nu_metal band any thrash or death metal band tune to open chords on a lower octave than standard
POSTED: 09/08/2006 - 09:07 am / quote |
pagan_bloodlust :
i think the writer should also watch some led zeppelin concerts and jimmy page essentially shreds during his solos and to compare blues guitarists to metal shredders is like compareing chalk and cheese scince metal is based upon classical compistions like Bach or motzart
POSTED: 09/08/2006 - 09:10 am / quote |
gyzer_8970 :
So many darn rants...
POSTED: 11/29/2006 - 04:41 am / quote |
pie_man_25 :
to be bluntly honest, this guy has a point in his rant,
both use power chords, it's just that metal is faster, toned down, overdriven, and has better solos in it. I prefer metal because I like to mosh and act like a stupid ass (I'm not saying metal is stupid, I'm saying all that breaking stuff and axe thrashing is stupid). But I still like Blues like Buddy Guy, Eric Clapton and Muddy waters. Besides, theoretically all music is different so making comparisons of any music is pointless.

POSTED: 02/14/2007 - 07:05 pm / quote |
wyvernfire :
Does anyone else find this whole thing hilarious ,besides me? Normally I would state what side of the argument I'm on, but there are so many conflicts going on at once here that its pointless.
POSTED: 02/26/2007 - 08:30 pm / quote |
pie_man_25 :
this guy has a point, both usepower chords, it's just that metal sounds better, and doesn't constantly repeat itself. besides, earlier metal didn't use power chords, at least as far as I know.(by earlier i mean bands like led zeppelin and black sabbath)
POSTED: 04/11/2007 - 06:26 pm / quote |
I_heart_metal :
this article sucked, Hamett was god
POSTED: 07/16/2007 - 01:44 am / quote |
mattvh93 :
i like metal and punk. metallica don't seem to have a problem with punk, they've done covers of ramones and misfits songs
POSTED: 07/22/2007 - 04:18 am / quote |
crazy_eyez_17 :
i just whant to say punk music is horrible...megadeth was kinda punky but only becuase they sang about political stuff but still i say punk is BOOOOO
POSTED: 11/01/2007 - 01:59 pm / quote |
outlaw767676 :
+1
POSTED: 03/04/2008 - 09:57 am / quote |
starzsp<6) :
SKA PUNK FOREVER , unrelated but its a peaceful genre that has never killed anyone had shouldnt have any haters

cya


POSTED: 05/12/2008 - 10:28 am / quote |
carlo754 :
SickGirl wrote:

omfg people yall keep bashing on good charlotte b/c they arnt punk!! they never said they were!!! the damn writer is just too stupid to know where to put them!!! good charlotte doesnt call themselves anything they dont care they just love doing music. yall keep saying they suck and crap but just b/c they arent as heavy as some bands that you like doesnt mean they suck! if YOU dont like em, get over it, it doesnt matter what YOU think. good charlotte has alot of fans that helped them through things like suicide and family problems. not for money, but b/c they want to help and they have been through it. alright i know this article isnt about them but there are way too many ignorant f*ckers on here that dont know wat the hell they are talking about. I was going to comment about the article but saw all these stupid comments on wat THEY think is right.just think for once. maybe the kind of music you like autamatically is the best or the music you dont like automatically sucks.


Sounds like a Good Charlotte fan.
Well, anyway I agree that power chords are overused in most of todays pop-rock songs, I think Metal is the next popular/good genre, such as Rock in the 80s or 70s.

P.D. Good Charlotte sucks +)

POSTED: 05/29/2008 - 08:52 pm / quote |
carlo754 :
SickGirl wrote:

and how can you say a band sucks when they probably play better than you? oh yah I forgot. b/c YOU dont like that kind of music. thats right i forgot. good charlotte isnt heavy enough to be "cool" so therefore they suck.


Wait!!!!!.....somebody wrote something stupid, I can sense it, I think its sickgirl.
She wrote that Good Charlotte plays better than another band.
Whattt?????
Godd Charlotte doesn't even play, if the "music" they do is actually playable.
Now I know why the **** she put on her nick "sickgirl".....she forgot"mentally"

POSTED: 05/29/2008 - 09:01 pm / quote |
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