Avril Lavigne: A Complicated Artist

In 2002, Avril Lavigne hit the charts with an album that was: "Unapologetically original, Unabashedly in your face... (and) gave young women a defiant voice and set it to music they could rock out to" (Avril's official website). The album "Lets Go" hit the world charts with 3 big singles and got Avril nominated for 8 Grammies.

While the album can definately be seen as targeted to 'teeny boper' girls, the originality comment is not quite as sustainable. Avril's songs never successfully go off the major scale and only use the 8 chords allowed in the major scale and the songs just leach of already done ideas most of the time... Also, Avril does not write as such. She CO-writes - and even with this help it is hard to believe that these lyrics are all a group of people could come up with. "He was a skater boy, I said seeya later boy", are just some of the attrocious lyric lines in this album and many listeners found themselves after hearing one line can guess the next.

Dispite the lyrical criticism, on the next record (Under My Skin) Avril felt more obliged to counter the "Avril cannot write by herself" comments. Avril did end up writing a huge bulk of the music and words, and this time also had ex-Evanescence guitarist Ben Moody by her side in the studio. However this move seemed to backfire and failed to shine off Avril's creative abilities and actually ended up proving that Avril's creative skill are far from the standard an 8 Grammy nominee should have. But then again, many Grammy nominees don't write their own songs any way.

While touring on her first album, Avril's live shows saw some up... and some very heavy lows. She soon became netorious for extremely badly sung, half hearted performances. She admitted to hating the song "Complicated" and purposely let it show in her live shows by rolling her eyes in the song and so on. This, in my opinion is just childish and selfish. People pay you for a service: to do a show the best you can. If you call an electrician to fix your TV he doesn't just walk in, do a half ar*ed job, then walk out because he "doesn't care". You are giving a show to the people who got you where you are, respect them and show your gratitude, regardless of how you feel. Avril does, on the other hand, have a journal on her site where she writes to her fans. The flip side to this is that in nearly 2 and a half years she has only written 12 entries to her fans...

As of recent Avril has attempted to change her image. Last year she tried to look all cool, cocky and rebellious in her interviews with a "who cares" attitude and sitting confidently. Also she was dubbed by some as a poser, though it was not proven. This changed this year on MTV when she was asked a personal question she didn't like she stared at the camera, tilted her head and gorked, pulling the finger sign and held the "pose" for a good 2-3 seconds. This action definately worked against the young artist, and got heavy criticism. It was not just the thousand of poser remarks but also the fact that MTV played a huge part in making her famous and many said she couldn't afford to lose their backing. And after all they'd done for her (like... help make her famous!) she ends up doing an immature, ammature publicity which resulted in the interview being cancelled.

Since then we now see Avril in backstage interviews staring at the floor, hugging her knees, trying to act all innocent, sweet and shy. One could believe that this is an act due to the fact it is quite strange for a successful artist who has toured and been on countless talk show, to stilll be camera shy? Why she has taken this approach, we cannot say. Possibly to try and shake her "poser" image? maybe even to sell? or maybe she was acting before and has decided to give it up and be herself? The truth is only she knows that.

Another change many should have noticed is that Avril has spent much time since her last album perfecting her live show and her vocal abilities so I think we will be hearing much less remarks about bad live reviews for the young artist. Her new acoustic live set acts almost like a rebuttle against bad live show alligations. Although there are countless bad performances from last year that you could pick if you wanted too, those days will quite probably soon be put behind her.

While her success is not the short lived 1 album wonder most people took her for, most will agree (probably even Avril) that Avril will probably not be remembered in 10 years time. She will likely go on for atleast another couple of albums. Her better live shows have most definately helped ensure her a more long term position in the industry, as will better song writing skills over time - which would not suprise me. Although you could argue that it really doesn't matter whether the songs are better or not, since constant play on mainstream radio seems to guarantee success nowadays.

Bibliography:

Avril Lavigne's Official Site

Ultimate-Guitar

POSTED: 08/20/2004 - 08:00 am

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Comments

[Minaret]

i just had to that once,
the article itself is a little short because she hasn't done THAT much yet

[buckethead101]

WHATEVER How about her childhood?

[JimmyJackrabbit]

The childhood ain't over yet man. :P

[AxeMan88uk]

wat is the point in the article!!??
youve achieved nothing, u dont even have a point of view, its a ramble of complaining against her, but then compliment her and complain again. And uve wasted a few minutes of my life tellin me something everyone knows neway, that shes a commercial poser.

[Fozz!]

I really can'e see what this article's telling me, we know she writes little, puts on a lacklustre and less than talented show. The fact that she thrives on publicity hardly needs to be put into writing.

While I'd be vaguey interested to read about her history (rumours used to about that she tried to start out as a folk singer(?)) this didn't tel me annything new.

[FreebirdSolo]

"Unapologetically original, Unabashedly in your face... (and) gave young women a defiant voice and set it to music they could rock out to"

Nah, I think it just made more teenage girls to start feeling depressed and made them wear ties all the time. And they even wear black....AIEE!

[hobo8917]

isn't her album "Let Go", not "Let's Go" ?

[ahdokboy]

americans need help in spelling.

[im not mental]

I respect Avril's guitarist Evan Taubenfield, but Avril is terrible. I'm so happy my sister stopped listening to her and good charlotte! but then again, she just got Hillary Duff's Cd.

[starbomb13]

yo- is this your way to answer me after all the f*ckin' PMs you've been posting me? you know NOTHING about her-this is just your way of bashing her with the info i gave you.

[endywendy]

One could believe that this is an act due to the fact it is quite strange for a successful artist who has toured and been on countless talk show, to stilll be camera shy? Why she has taken this approach, we cannot say. Possibly to try and shake her "poser" image? maybe even to sell? or maybe she was acting before and has decided to give it up and be herself? The truth is only she knows that.

Dude you're trying to sound smart. make a clear argument for pete's sake. you ramble about 20+ points tht don't even coincide with another.

Put it through the Columns forum first!

[endywendy]

buckethead101:
WHATEVER How about her childhood?

JimmyJackrabbit:
The childhood ain't over yet man. :P

i agree. it sounds more like a history lesson dabbed with opinions...

[reed]

Lord_Xian:
id do her

Oh that's quite funny, you know?

Pointless article. You seriously do sound like you're trying to sound smart.

[white_waltz]

Ok i came to this article to find a story about Avril's life and see exagerations on her sucess. This article was merely Avril's music life and didnt explain her well. VEry terrible article you made Avril look really bad but i've decided since Avril's new album she is not that bad. In fact Avril is kind of brillaint but is restricted by the image people want her to have. She has good taste in music and i sincerely hope one day she breaks free from this, joins a real band, and comesa back at us with some great songwriting skills. Here's how i would explain Avril:

Avril is a very complicated artist. She released singles from her first cd such as "complicated" and "sk8er boy" that showed her to be a preppy young muscian that would make it huge for a great amount of years int he mainstream. What many do not know is that most of this album Avril wrote with other people and she seemed to dislike this. Avril at times pullls off and innocent shy look that some poeple call acting. I think this is the true Avril though; An avril that looks innocent and quiet to the world but has insights that no normal person has. An Avril who's lyrics should mean a great amount to her. This would explain why she detested the song "complicated" and the fact that she didnt write along on her album. Avril decided to try to break free of all of this with the second album. Avril had touring to do though and she was quiote unsure of how to deal withthese fake lyrics. Avril was made out to be some crowd loving preppy deva that every litttle girl should idolize so when she was difficult in interviews she was massively criticized. Thing is avril is much like radioheads frontman in the fact she doesnt want to be int he spotlight all the time and she doesnt to do what others try to force her too. If it had been someone like Tom and he pulled an avril in an interview no one would care. Avril was merely caught up in the mainstream. Avrils second album was released and showed a lot more potenital. The lyrics were much more better and the hit singles werent that huge. Still Avril has along road ahead and a bad image behind her. Can she grow in musical skills and shrink in popularity? its merely some music geeks fantasy. (hot girl, greeat music dream)

[m-black]

Thing is avril is much like radioheads frontman in the fact she doesnt want to be int he spotlight all the time and she doesnt to do what others try to force her too. If it had been someone like Tom and he pulled an avril in an interview no one would care.

Are you crazy???????? how can you compare Avril with Tom??? that's just insane..

anyway.. there's no "avril's music history" there's no "history" in 2 years.. i think her music is s****

if you like it, fine, but don't try to make us think that you don't like her and then justifice why you DO like her.. make up your mind!!

and yes, i also think she is fake and a poser.. she is an fake as britney, same game, different players..

[Pandaman]

You people are wayyy too critical. Either that or you are all hardcore avril fans. She's a terrible pop artist who thinks she's punk and sucks at being rebellious (and everything she does for that matter) She really needs to be hit by a bus. Five stars.

[white_waltz]

Are you crazy???????? how can you compare Avril with Tom??? that's just insane..

Ya it is a hgue exaggeration but it hopefully beat some sense into people. I mean if someone of Tom's status did something like ignore the press everyone would just seee it as normal. If avril does it, it suddenly isnt right and is displeasing to her fans. I just wanted to stretch that real fans are about the music not publicity. It was insanely crazy for me to compare avril and tom though seeing as i ahvent heard any of avril's albums all the way through.

[TwistedLogic]

The content of the article does not really go with the title. It should have been about her tute not her history and potentiel future. For the record my opinion is that Avril is not simply immature but that she is just dumber than dirt and she cannot figure out he to behave sometimes. I have seen her in interviews on t.v and everytime I have the impression that there is nothing going on inside of her head. Maybe she should have stayed in school while working on her music.

[WrappedInCold]

no comment

[CrazyMonkey]

^ That's ironic...

[MrLucky77713]

Wow. Just a bad article. Journalism is in a sad state...

[Diceman42]

terrible.

[Matty Ramone]

WTF!!!!!!! my life is now 100% better after reading about Avril the super ROCK guitar player ROC ON AVRIL!!!!!

[Robo_Hobo]

bad article man

Really bad. I'm not even gonna bother modding this. You don't put opinions in a factual piece.

[grunge88]

^^ yep. im tired of "she sucks" or "shes not punk she pop" blah blah who freaking cares. im not a fan of hers but people should leave her alone,at least shes winning awards,money and all that you wished YOU had

[againstme91]

White Waltz, when you write something that long you should at least use proper grammar. Believe me it's "much more better."

[Klown]

sorry... but i thought everyone knew she was a poser and a... well... she's not supposed to be where she is, she is a great example of someone that gets waaaaay more then she deserves becaus of the fact that everyone seem to be mindless drones listening to whatevers on MTV. Well I suppose that's just things work around MTV.

[Spicer_UK]

Avril Lavigne is a total wannabe', I'm sick of her being talked about while other much more talented bands go un-noticed. Surely some people here agree.

[Emenius Sleepus]

I'm just wondering how many people gave this 1 star just because it had "Avril Lavigne" in the title...

[WhiteKnight123]

wat is the point in the article!!??
youve achieved nothing, u dont even have a point of view, its a ramble of complaining against her, but then compliment her and complain again. And uve wasted a few minutes of my life tellin me something everyone knows neway, that shes a commercial poser.

Thats all good but ^ in response to the one star thing, i gave it one star because it was a rant about avril and her music, i seriously hate her more than most ppl but i still think that complaining about her lyrics is stupid, shes not supposed to have well written songs, just little ones u can play at sckool dances etc...

[bucky_2300]

you can't even spell, and you want us to take you seriously?
go to hell.

[Zeke5000]

Avril isnt horrible. She is a better role model for girls than those chicks in rap videos. I dont like her music or her style much but at least she isnt talking about fucking every guy she sees.

[AcDcizzle]

In all honesty i dont like her music but would have rather read an intelligent article that was not pro or against avril.. In other words a Neutral article, not a bashing biased article.. And Zeke does havea point ^^.

[SpoonyPony]

This is a personal rant, not an informative article on Avril Lavigne. Write about how much you hate her in your online diary, not here.

[BadgerCubed]

hey you all bash on avril right? How come your not making millions on music? Does anyone have a voice as good as her?

I know at least five girls that attend my high school with voices that blow hers away. Avril is making millions because she has a marketable look and personality. Her singing is good, but it's far from spectacular.

So, yes, at least thousands of people have a better voice than her.

[krazee]

Some people are so pathetic. if you hate her, you have the option of not buying her cd and not listening to her. writing an article to bash her only makes you look like you want attention. So why waste your time writing bullshit? This is an example of people acting childish. and if you're gonna go on about all the anti-avrils out there, you might as well think about this. the most hated artists out there are the best selling artists like britney or avril. starting another anti-avril site is only going to spread the word about avril. so if you hate her, you might as well avoid talking about her and simply not watch shows based on avril. writing an article about her only means you're asking for more avril. i agree with spoonypony, write about how much you hate her in your online diary, not here.

[xanthpipe-punk]

I saw Avril live and she was gr8. One of the best concerts I've eva been to. I wouldn't hesitate to go again. It was all pure energy, man!

[AusFender911]

As much as i truly dislike avril, this article was terrible.

[chili]

This article really sucks....if u don't like her, don't write about her!

[chokeme]

i thought it was a good article, very informative and i learned alot more on this 'controversial' artist. i don't really care either ways, but at least it'll help inform some of those who do seem so vehemently against her.

[starbomb13]

all based on "reliable" magazine interviews and opinions. opinions that you try to make "factual".bulls*it. i really don't see the point of this-if you don't like her- then forget about her,yet- you insist on writing a crappy "article" that has no significance.

[Slasher_Sloth]

what the hell is happening here? Some people here are saying stuff like "this isnt a bashing article" and "leave avril alone" and "if you want to bash avril write it in your diary". Sounds like some people DEFENDING avril because deep down inside of them they actually LIKE her music. I thought this website was called Ultimate GUITAR.... not Ultimate Pop Artists. This answers people saying "well shes making ALOT more money then you are. And shes really popular so she must be doing SOMETHING right.". Avril is so popular because (sadly) about 20% of the entire world is composed of little screaming girls that like that crap and the only ones stupid enough to buy 5 copies of her CD's. And also people (like some on UG sadly) who originally enjoyed listening to some really actually good (not good as in opinion, good as in skil/talent/hard work) music. But now as soon as ONE person confesses that they like avril, everyone who has even just a tiny bit of liking for avrils music start defending her and saying she "rocks". If that doesnt scare you as much as it scares me, then holy crap i might aswell give up on all the bands that i like and join the mainstream or pop club...(haha which will NEVER happen)

[civildp1]

great article.

how in god's name did this make it through the columns forum?!?!

[BigFatSandwich]

Did we really need an article to tell us why Avril should not be respected? I stopped reading after spelling error number 15. So yeah, I made it through like 2 paragraphs.

[grunge88]

avril is an example of how music has changed.think about it.many bands today suck like soty,yellowcard,hoobastank,three days grace,smile empty soul,ect...
theres hardly any good music today.if you like bands like these,you have NO TASTE IN MUSIC!!!but i guess thats what "hip" today....

[MrLucky77713]

This isn't analytical.

redwing: It DIDN'T make it through the columns forum. We never saw it. which is why it's important that we DO see it so garbage doesn't make ti to you, the reader.

[grunge88]

lol......evanescence sucks!if you like them and think theyre kool...you suck too!

[gr33n@tion]

why you have to go and make things so constipated!!!!>__

[gr33n@tion]

why you have to go and make things so constipated!!
>_

[gr33n@tion]

that's right evanescence does suck
so does avril but not that much

[fender rocker16]

"failed to shine off Avril's creative abilities"

duh... you cant show something that isn't there.

[Scorpion99]

wat is the point in the article!!??
youve achieved nothing, u dont even have a point of view, its a ramble of complaining against her, but then compliment her and complain again. And uve wasted a few minutes of my life tellin me something everyone knows neway, that shes a commercial poser.

I agree this article is just bull shit and a waste of my time. No offense to however wrote it but it was.

[dylan_f1989]

This article does have meaning you relize. it has informed me on how dumb she is.

[CryingNut]

JimmyJackrabbit:
The childhood ain't over yet man. :P

hilarious lol i just found that funny

[CryingNut]

when the article is about avril
i usually read the comments
its quite funny
i just read the article
it was also funny
hehe

[CryingNut]

Emenius Sleepus:
I'm just wondering how many people gave this 1 star just because it had "Avril Lavigne" in the title...

oops

[CryingNut]

civildp1:
great article.

hehe

[CryingNut]

why you have to go and make things so constipated!!
>_

hilarious

[CryingNut]

wait not really im constipated...
oww...

[Rockstar_450]

^ lol

Hey guys. I would like to put a few points up first:
1) yes, this was a rant. I expected it to get one/two star average. It's a world where one can speak their mind. Apologies to those who's time i wasted
2) many commented on the style of my grammer "trying to sound smart?" I am a university student and this is how I write (i often get high distinctions in my essays so i do something right)and if this is odd to you, maybe it's coz you are just not accustomed to it/
3) I wrote this article in litereally 15 minutes and didn't proof read it. I saw her on the news recently and decided to brew up a rant, and loaded up her official site to get something to substantiate atleast some of my claims.
4)There are spelling mistakes, but i have seen articles on here which use shortenings like "u and b'coz", incorrect and unpunctuated grammer. Surely this is not the bottom of the bottom. Again i didn't really care. I was bored and just wanted to throw out an arguement after reading some of the site memeber's album reviews i had read (and nearly vomited on the screen)
5) i never KNEW about the darn article forum... i wouldn't have ignorantly disobeyed this convention!

[Rockstar_450]

Hey guys. I would like to put a few points up first:
1) yes, this was a rant. I expected it to get one/two star average. It's a world where one can speak their mind. Apologies to those who's time i wasted
2) many commented on the style of my grammer "trying to sound smart?" I am a university student and this is how I write (i often get high distinctions in my essays so i do something right)and if this is odd to you, maybe it's coz you are just not accustomed to it/
3) I wrote this article in litereally 15 minutes and didn't proof read it. I saw her on the news recently and decided to brew up a rant, and loaded up her official site to get something to substantiate atleast some of my claims.
4)There are spelling mistakes, but i have seen articles on here which use shortenings like "u and b'coz", incorrect and unpunctuated grammer. Surely this is not the bottom of the bottom. Again i didn't really care. I was bored and just wanted to throw out an arguement after reading some of the site memeber's album reviews i had read (and nearly vomited on the screen)
5) i never KNEW about the darn article forum... i wouldn't have ignorantly disobeyed this convention!

[Gr1m R34p3r]

Haha, great article/nice burn...

[snoopy_2oo4]

lmao.. all i can do is laugh. its funny how people think she is, through the media eye.
before you make a judgement get to know her on a personal level.. she is ANYTHING but shy

[shepwarp]

ummm... all I will say is : grammar...

and HD for an essay? Ummm... right, especially with all those spelling mistakes that you NEEDED to proofread for? umm... right

Americans? hmmm...

[Rockstar_450]

^ you obviously have never even attended school lol. Why would i bother putting my full mind to an artist bashing ramble? use your head!

and I'm Australian...

idiots? hmmm...

[Rockstar_450]

oh and snoopy_2004. i know she isn't shy. That's why i find it strange when i see her hugging her knees and avoiding eye contact in TV interviews now...

[vanceboy]

Good bashin. You were somewhat objective with it, that's why you sort of contradicted what you said, right. anyway, i must say avril is pretty bone-able, eh?

[levelord]

Now this is one of the few Arvil articles that actually made sense.

[freak_out6]

Avril ROCKS!!!!
You don't even know her,and so do I, so... why you talk her personality and not about her work? I read every articles and interviews about her and I think she is just a girl who wants to have fun, with a big tallent, her work is absolutily great what hels can I say?? AVRIL ROCKS!!!!

sorry if that are some mistakes in my writting.. I'm portugueses!!lol

[semus]

gah i dont like avril at all - only for stupid lyrics and not such gr8 music / soundd.. bah.

btw, it sux that today to get famous and loved u just have to play ur songs on radio.. then some1 likes u and every follows him to be 'cool'.. gah.

[Microchips]

"Also she was dubbed by some as a poser, though it was not proven"

How can you prove someone is a poser? Its an opinion and you cant prove opinions

Its my opinion your a complete cunt but i cant prove it

[PunkSpikedFreak]

Avril (in my opinion, as well as many others) is a poser. Her music sucks!!!

[Rockstar_450]

thanks levelord! lol

hey Freakout_6...

I think she is just a girl who wants to have fun, with a big tallent, her work is absolutily great what hels can I say??

she doesn't even write alot of it. and its not exactly a "big" talent. she doesn't completely write any of her material... and you can't exactly argue her "talent" in terms of creativity. She is definately not without talent, but not worthy of the hype which surrounds her.

[Timmeah]

the funny thing is, her first album is a lot more listenable than the second one. i'm not an avril fan but my sibling listens to her constantly, and from what i can hear the second one is complete bullshit while the first one is at least poppy. and that's the one she wrote herself hm? well. rockstar_450, for a 15 minute article, pretty good as i should expect from an aussie

[clazz]

Yeah I agree with Timmeah, I prefer her first album. There are some better songs on the second album (Nobody's Home, although her voice goes boom in a couple of places, ugh. Lyrics are good though) but I generally prefer her first album. I don't like her though. She can't sing, although she IS improving very slightly, and she's finally learned how to play more than one chord. In the past, she has not played guitar live, except for one song, often claiming that she sucks. Avril knows best, for once.

[smell_my_cheese]

its amazing how much people who don't like avril but still take the time out of their lives to write something bad about her which someone has already pointed out about two comments ago!!! bloody foreigners you can all smell my extra mature chedder cheese!!

[Obie]

meh ur all a buncha idiots all u flamers, cant even put up a good argument on why u hate avril.

dumbasses dont even say anything if youre too dumb to put up a good argument, stupid mofos deserve to be buried in holes

avril rox

[jimbo66]

urgh why would you write this "history" theres not history about her, she put out two albums or somthing like that see i dont even care about her enough to see how many albums she has. you wanna write a history about someone try hendrix or zeppelin or the beatles bands that have history i mean dont just write somthing cas shes popular write it cas you appreciate what they have done i mean hendrix revoloutionized the guitar in his time nobody knew where he came from he just smoked up the music industry and zeppelin what can i say they were just plain incredible the beatles its true music wouldnt be the same if the beatles werent a band. and dont tell me you truley appreciate what shes about or what shes done cas from what i can tell shes not punk(and many can agree with me on that) she has no history worthy enough to be put on ug(but then again ug has come to shit) and il give you a good reason why i hate her.... she just doesnt understand music she says shes punk when she comes out with sk8er boi( i think thats how they spelled it) well if you really are punk then you can atleast spell its skater boy and even then you cant be punk cas that was a horrible song not punk at all!!!!! so my message to her quite while your ahead because soon it will all come crashing down when your making this song saying i am soo great because im punk and people look up to me well no one looks up to her just high mantnience girls, posers and people that are retarded

[MyBand_NME_rulz]

about that past, presant, futrue thing. She has no furture. she deserves to die.

[GuitarNinja7]

wow you all blow, you talk so much s*it about everything, nothin but hippocrites ( however you spell it ).. look she may suck, but, aparently she has more talent then all of you, now...im into things like megadeth and Old school metallica, but i have to admit she DOES have skill for her age, and maybe shes just not sure WHAT kind of person she wants to be i.e. punk, rebellious blah blah blah. so c'mon people, you at least have to give her a little credit, and i mean...hey...if you dont like her and think she sucks, then you go do better, how many albums do you all have out? hmm? my point exactly,


*disclaimer: no i do NOT like avril as an artist, although i DO admit she does have talent*

[Señor]

MyBand_NME_rulz:
about that past, presant, futrue thing. She has no furture. she deserves to die.
[POSTED: 22 August 2004 - 17:12]|
are u stupid or sumthing? i cant believe u can say that u want someone to die...u stupid mother***er...u bloody fuking wanker...i'm sure ur a twat who listens to good charlotte...

[tremonti0076]

avril is my girl

[adia]

she knows how to sing
and that 's it
her skill
only see I
in her.

[dkmfan4189]

well that was waste of time.....bad article. it didnt say nething that we didnt know already.

[FrankNslash]

i know avril in person infact we actually dated for a while and now were just good friends good luck in ur future career avy.(her nickname.)

[FrankNslash]

she gives greta head by the way! man

[SURFraptor7]

Who names their band after themself??

[Fungry]

Whoever wrote the article should learn how to spell if they wish to sound intelligent and reputable. Perhaps some proper punctuation too. And if you're going to claim the article to be a history of her life, perhaps include some history rather than some subjective opinions based on little fact or hearsay. I dislike her immensely, but i don't agree with rumours and biased opinion labelled fact.

[IlikeTheSKA]

Complicated artist? I didn't think d5, g5, a5, was complicated.

[nefarious_zemog]

so, what your point? your ideas got so mixed up.. i really don't get it..don't get me wrong but it seems like you're the one who's supposed to be called "poseur".. you are trying hard to sound so all-knowing about her..one more thing, Avril is trying to be herself and it's the media that projects what she's not..

[Evil Noodle]

The funny thing is, not anything which you guys have stated. It'sthe fact that you come onto a WEBSITE and you read an article and say it wasted your time by reading, yet, you spend time getting angry over something someone has wrote over an artist you couldn't even listen to if you wanted to, then you fill it with replies that no one either bothers to read! That's what i think it's funny. Jeebus, go outside for *** sake, get some kind of life!

[Fungry]

Wow Evil Noodle, that was brave, being the one who goes against the norm. Well unless you're "no one" which is likely, someone's bothered to read what people have had to say. And what do you mean "couldn't listen to even if we tried"? Are you implying that we can't listen to music? I never knew there was a skill to the unconscious process of audio reception. Or maybe we're all deaf? Seriously, we post here because it's encouraged and such an article needs response. You claim what's funny is that people like us who make comments based on articles have no lives. Then what's that make you? You reply to our replies. I think you need to spend more time INSIDE and think about your own life and where it's going.

[dogsballs]

Right on fungry man lets keep on posting. and that artickle was hilarious five stars.

[bass_player15]

well i dont like her but i dont hate her. but this is kinda pointless cuz this is a guitar site and well. . .

avril is like the anti-guitar.

[PoStAl]

I personally haven't followed Avril Lavigne's career as closely as those who have posted here. (I've read about half of the comments with the OMG CRAP ARTICLE YOU HATE AVRIL, LOL MAN SHE ROX and figured most were like this.).

I know of this with what I've heard on tv with the constant plugging (in particular some interview played constantly on late night tv) adverts, and what I hear occasionally in my girlfriends car :/ and then somebody calling her "punk" to which I spat out the cola I was drinking at the time.

Now, I'm no music scholar, I've played various instruments (in chronological order: piano, clarinet, bass guitar, guitar), learnt from a young age, have a large array and interest in music, enough to clarify that from what I've heard that complicated and skater boi are not entirely that original.

She's mediocre music with a nice image to portray/sell.

nothing more.

just get a grip on what you're getting cut up about.

albeit there's some opinions in there, if you're going to be completely and absolutely objective, go read a science journal.

in my opinion praise where praise is due, he's given compliments when deserved and criticism when deserved. and aren't columns meant to be personal?
do you read newspapers people?

bah.

all up, this is actually a pretty good article, and rockstar, ignore the majority of these arses (if you happen to be a poster, and agree with what I'm saying, you are no longer an arse ). This Is A Good Article, keep it up.

[slash_rhoads]

P O I N T L E S S

[i_strum_i_drum]

im sure the 'reliable sources' used for this absolutely horrible article were tabloids. i mean come on she even said in an interview (which i watched) that she was unsure why she had not played the guitar practically at all on the first album. she now plays on all her songs on the second - meaning she is most definately not anti-guitar (which makes no sense in the first place). i for one believe there are many more artists out there that do not deserve to be famous whatsoever over her. maybe..um..say britney spears, eminem (or just all rappers) and all the other ppl who have much less talent than avril does.

Another thing, whats with picking on her because shes not as comfortable in front a camera. she's not an actress shes a musician and i think you guys are making mountains out of molehills. the tiny things that don't have anything to do with her music piss off all the anti-avril people. its all about the music and you should listen to other songs of hers before you bash her. dont be so shallow
im just saying you should look deeper than the surface and not just eat up what the media tells you cuz the media is bullsh*t.
if you still dont like her thats ok just dont go parading it around for attention cuz then your a dumbass

SHE DESERVES HER FAME AND KICKS MAJOR ASS!

[Breakneck]

No bias in this article what-so-ever. Way to tell it like it is, using facts with your opinion! She is not musically inclined, she is not a likable artist, and she has no credibility to tell me what life is like. Hit puberty, then tell me how hard the world is, the skankiest skank that every skanked.

[color me misery]

So you think you can just say avril sucks and be cool, nice way to be "Mainstream" douchebag.

[i_strum_i_drum]

breakneck, everything is biased

[orcutt989]

Avril did end up writing a huge bulk of the music and words

Wow, great so she still doesnt know how to write all of her music?

And it is, "teenie bopper", not "teeny boper".

[keepitheavy]

shes hot, didn't even read the article f*ck that

[tiimmmmmyyy]

Avril is ugly and poppy... DIE

[Redeemed_Rocker]

Great article on how much Avril sucks.

[lb_guitarist12]

article is way too long, i know im lazy as hell. well limp bizkit is better then everyone.

[rockout]

what was the point to this article?- i am an addmitted avril fan and wont and have no desire to hide that in any way, but seriously...this article is horrible! even if you were just bashing someone i didnt even like- its still shouldnt be written, everyone has their own opinion and thats just what it is, their opinion, so, bashing her or anyone else for that matter just shows how immature some ppl really are, everyone should and will have their own opinion in music, thats the way it should be, so when i say i dont like certain bands or singers i leave it at that, i dont spend my time bashing them. let everyone have their own opinion about who they like! this article was simply a way to supposedly use real information to talk about her- really u were just going off of what u read about that most likely isnt true...whatever- just realize that its truly immature to be writingand dissing all these ppl, they do what they do and no one is goin to stop them

[BurNW73]

oh my goodness... the point of the article is to show the readers how badly avril lavigne sucked and how she's kind of stepping it up. i'll always say she's no good, and when the author said,
"She admitted to hating the song "Complicated" and purposely let it show in her live shows by rolling her eyes in the song and so on. This, in my opinion is just childish and selfish."
... i just thought about it as a musician. you can't hate something you've done. I guess she has some room to breathe because she didnt even write the lyrics herself.

[imnaked]

avril lavinge im coming for you.

[stutor]

Bang bang that awful sound.
Stu's comin' round Avril.
Bang bang you hit the ground.
Stu's pants are fallin down.
Bang bang that awful sound.
In, out i'll soon be gone.
Bang bang a child conceived.
Bang bang a woman bereaved.

[dashboard_fan]

Who cares what an article says if the people like her they like her and if they don'........ahhhh nevermind

[KirkHammet]

a better title for this article would be... "Avril Lavigne: A F*ckin Poser". then, at least, it would be true

[i_strum_i_drum]

the media is most likely the 'reliable source' for this 'article'. Rockstar_450 piece of advice; don't believe everything the media or tabloids tell you - its all bullsh*t. VIVE L'AVRIL!

[Marcus Grasso]

Mmmm who cares

This website needs more explosions and robots and less people with "opinions"

[Mick Mackler]

So what if she didn't write all of her music? The first album she was pretty much forced by her label to collaborate with other artists and she didn't like it (someone already mentioned that). That's why she didn't collaborate with "The Matrix" (or whoever those writers were) on the second album. That's why she wrote several songs with real musicians such as Ben Moody formally of Evanescence and Chantel (can't think of her last name) on the second album. Hence, the largely different sounding sophmore effort. It is more "real" Avril. She is still growing as a musician/songwriter, and you can tell the lyrics on "Under My Skin" are a bit more mature. I think the third album will gain a lot of respect from all you naysayers. As someone said earlier, "better songwriting, less fame" is the only direction she can head. She'll always have me as a fan. Rock on Avril and don't listen to uninformed hypocrites who criticize you but would give a testicle to be where you are.

[Mick Mackler]

And by the way, I went to school and studied writing as well Rockstar_450, and you'll never catch me using bad "grammer" (IT'S GRAMMAR, you idiot!) in an article I know hundreds will read. Didn't proof read...more like didn't pay attention in spelling class. Keep your opinions for comment sections. An objective article is FACT-BASED and opinion free. Go back to school.

[biohazardous56]

i think i need to take a shit now

[BC516208]

i am not a fan of avril or any other fake @$$ "singer/songwriter" i think people who dont write there own songs are $HIT!!! From elvis to britney, they are all bad influences and especially avril. she starts out a "thumbs up" rocker girl with a f*ck parents attitude, to a "i think i;; go for the black ripped pants wearing rocker who wants my fans to kill themselves after hearing 3 songs from my new album"

sorry avril the world isnt big enough for u and ur 16 fans!

[ndat]

why does everyone hate?

[Hach]

Hach: whoeva wrote this is a DICKHEAD!!!!!!!!!! u havnt even met her!!! u dont know her bach round how she grew up she might not be herself in interveiws coz she doent no how after all she is only 18!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ghost iv]

greenday lyrics does not "suc balls" thank you very much mr Mcgeetar!!!

[Lick_Soloist]

Rolling eyes during a song which is her own?? That in my opinion is her best peice of work so far.
But give her sum credit, She has dealt with preasures of the music industry well at such a young age

[psychodelia]

I thought "complicated artist" would mean Avril was a person whos songs were very deep and went in many directions... instead it was kind of the opposite lol. I don't really like Avril much, but that's me.

[freddie04]

bad article, to complicated means deep thoughtful to mean not that she writes her own music


anyhows shes fit so it doesnt mata

[ad_lib_oz]

SHE FUCKING SUCKS. AVRIL SHOULD DIE!!


Yeah, I sound so n00bish. Mwahahaha

[krazee]

all you anti-avrils say the same things over and over again. "avril sucks! avril's a poseur! she's not punk! avril should die!" WHAT EVER! come up with something new. and yes, i'm an avril fan and i respect the fact that different people will have different opinions but i dont go bashing them because of that. if you dont' like avril, then avoid talking about her. simple as that

[AC/DC KING]

avril sucks shiitt
she cant even say david bowie correctly to me thats shes just the most ignorant biitch ever and dumb

[nefarious_zemog]

avril sucks shiitt
she cant even say david bowie correctly to me thats shes just the most ignorant biitch ever and dumb

^^then what the heck that makes you?? just because she can't pronounce it well doesn't make her dumb.. let's face it man, she's rich and famous... you're just jealous because you're not..lol!!!!

[Denial_padawan]

please nuke avril rotten flesh holes, she is a tramp, she suck my flesh missile and i enjoy that jejejeje

[MetalheadBuddha]

The guy who wrote this doesnt appear to know how to spell. I'll let you investigate the errors. I found about 3-4 things wrong with it. Now, im no English teacher, but dude, if you are writing something in which appears to try to educate people about something, make sure you spell crap right.

[Bilzzard_of_Ozz]

Dude, you're only praising her 'cos you want to do her!

[ianian]

her songs shouldnt be on the radio like ***ing hilary duff and indsay lohan

[Anarchy101]

avril suck get her the *** off UG

[egor]

it was proven for millions of millions of times that she's a poser .and she's not even an artist - she cant sing at all ,and she cant even play power chords , not even talkin bout solos and riffs .

[Brendan DEwald]

Aviral sucks she cant sing

[starbomb13]

You people are wayyy too critical. Either that or you are all hardcore avril fans. She's a terrible pop artist who thinks she's punk and sucks at being rebellious (and everything she does for that matter) She really needs to be hit by a bus. Five stars.

i hope YOU get hit by a bus. what makes you think she's "trying" to be "punk" in the first place.it's just your opinion-not fact.

Aviral sucks she cant sing

apparantly-you can't spell
it was proven for millions of millions of times that she's a poser .and she's not even an artist - she cant sing at all ,and she cant even play power chords , not even talkin bout solos and riffs .

PROVEN? and just how was it proven? if you think magazine interviews and crap like that is "proof",you're deeply mistaken,damn it.

she cant even say david bowie correctly to me thats shes just the most ignorant biitch ever and dumb

wow-i never knew that intelligence was measured by your ability to pronounce "david bowie" correctly- realize how many f*ckin' times people mispronounce her name."Ai-vril"....what the hell?

sorry avril the world isnt big enough for u and ur 16 fans!

16 fans? listen boy-she sells out 25 000 + arenas constantly and has sold over 20 million albums- uh huh...i'm sure 16 fans bought 20 million copies of her albums.

Who names their band after themself??

she never named her "band" after herself- she's a solo artist.the guys are not in a band with her.

[ChrisMcD88]

^Shit dude, i am not even a fan, but awesome way to prove a point and let everyone know they are full of opinionated shit. Nice work starbomb13

[slash_620]

i agrre avril is shit

[xxgenocide98xx]

im not mental:
I respect Avril's guitarist Evan Taubenfield, but Avril is terrible. I'm so happy my sister stopped listening to her and good charlotte! but then again, she just got Hillary Duff's Cd.


WTF? DUDE DID YOU SEE HIM TRY TO PLAY 'FUEL' on MTV ICON? HE SUCKED ASS. HE SHOULD DIE.

[Samuel777]

You people are stupid, your agreeing / opposing a side of a Frivolous topic.

[Rockstar_450]

why do people counter argue so silly with "you haven't even met her"?? it's so pointless? most of this info is from personal interviews, which for some artists is the only time they can be themselves. An interview where any artist can throw off their commercial chains and be themselves. People who use this as an arguement also means that nobody can say she's nice have no proof whether she is either.

[RoughDraft]

The article sucked...no offence to whoever wrote it but it didn't teach me anything about the artist didn't give me a point of view (the author didn't even have on themself!)

But even though...sadley her songs i seem to enjoy, sometimes and they do get stuck in your head...and they're so easy to learn that i play a couple, so i guess i do like her as an artist a little...i think inside Avril lavigne isn't stupid or complicated and a horrible artist but she's a YOUNG artist and since she doesn't want to be a wannabe poser she writes her own songs (or tries to) therefore they aren't all hat great and i mean of course she's shy in the camera or whatever because she's what? 17 and moody and all that junk...not that im supporting her but i mean she's just somebody (who is talkented with a voice)with a gift that isn't quite able to fully enjoy it yet, because she's too young and doesn't seem to get. htats all


too bad that in 5 years (when she would understand and enjoy it) nodoy will even remember the punk rock princess, Avril lavigne

[i_strum_i_drum]

star bomb - hats off to you, cheers.

People who use this as an arguement also meas that nobody can say she's nice have no proof whether she is either.

^Rockstar_450 aka author

ok, dude. no idea what your saying there. i didnt proof-read, my ass! come on, man. i mean, im no english teacher, but do you have to "proof read" everything you write or say?

but come on people, dont read what they write in tabloids or magazines or any other form of media, chances are there's probably no more than an inch of truth in it unless its a full blown article.

i respect and love her for her music and her attitude not for whether shes "punk" or not. ROCK ON GIRL!

[choop]

well that was boring.

[Rockstar_450]

I the only reason half the people here get their grammar correct in their articles is coz they write em in word first and let it do the work for them.

I didn't coz it was just a pointless rant but from a neutral perspective which used "real facts" to say what i thought. Thanks to all those who enjoyed it.

[i_strum_i_drum]

that quote was from one of your posts and i have yet to understand what you were saying. i just have this feeling that everyone who's posted didnt have to use word before they did.

and have you ever been to an avril concert? how do you know she "has some ups and heavy lows", if you've been to one, you would know that shes an awesome entertainer and knows how to work the entire stage as well as the crowd, she tells you before each song what its about and is really cool about everything. of course we all know performances are not as perfect as the album so stop being so critical about that.

[turkey salad]

Obie:
meh ur all a buncha idiots all u flamers, cant even put up a good argument on why u hate avril.

dumbasses dont even say anything if youre too dumb to put up a good argument, stupid mofos deserve to be buried in holes

avril rox

Reasons why she sucks: She can't sing
She can't play guitar
She most probally still watches Barney
She did an awful cover of knockin on heavens door
Her original material is also shit
Her lyrics arent original and the people who write them for her should live in boxes beside McDonalds

Now give me the reasons why you like her?

[cixelsyd]

i bet every single person here what screw avril and thats why she will be famous, especially we all know in 2 years shes going to pose for playboy.....

[Davey_Rocket]

she's hot!!! and she has a good voice...that's all i need to say, he he.

[Panatonix]

she is a poser

[Gurgle!Argh!]

Bad. Poorly researched, lacking a good point... just, generally... bad...

[MooCowMan]

avrils the greatest!!!..

[MooCowMan]

y does everyone hate her

[refusedparty]

Why does everyone think Avril is a punk rock goddess? There's nothing punk about crying in videos...there's nothing punk about making videos! Do NOFX make videos? Point made.

[i_strum_i_drum]

when did avril say she was punk? yeah thats what i thought. SHE NEVER F***ING SAID SHE WAS PUNK! where do you guys get that from?

you all pick on avril for her image yet ashlee simpson wears a shirt that plainly says "PUNK" on it. pick on someone who deserves it because avril lavigne is 10 times better than her and we all know that.

ima girl and no i dont like avril cuz i want to screw her like all you other mindless jerk-offs who like her for her looks. i like her for her music and her attitude. not for if shes punk or not.

ROCK ON AV!

[Rockstar_450]

^^ why does someone have to SAY what kind of music they are to BE that kind of music you fool

she is punk because: she only ever uses 7/8 chords in the major scale and her lead (vocals and guitar) only ever follow those same notes. Also the trademark punk lame musicianship...

and starbomb. Why would we ALL give any thing to be avril? i wouldn't want to be only adored by teeny boppers and hated by all real musicans.

[monstertaco]

wow this is alot o posts

[i_strum_i_drum]

she is punk because:...

rockstar_450, ok you need to make up your mind. whats with all the poser talk if you just called her punk? which she even said she wasn't and wasn't trying to be either. she likes waht she likes and people label it as one thing or another. she has the right to her own opinion with out having to defend herself

[johnnyoldschool]

SURFraptor7:

Who names their band after themself??

Jimi Hendrix, Bruce Springsteen, Tom Waits, Elvis Presley. Note that I'm not suggesting Avril is on par with these gentlemen, I'm just answering the question.

Rockstar_450:

she doesn't completely write any of her material

Don't Tell Me, Take Me Away, Nobody's Home, Freak Out? Ring any bells? Having played several of her songs, I can guarantee she uses minor chords.

Anyway, I didn't much care for her first album. Her appearance on Saturday Night Live in May convinced me to test her second album, which I find much better. I also enjoy her persona a lot more now that she's stopped trying to convince people she's X or Y. Maturity is a wonderful thing.

Is Avril a guitar wannabe? Of course, but c'mon